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Jeebo

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61. That is the exact opposite of what I said.

Wed Mar 17, 2021, 05:58 PM

Mar 2021

Go back and read my words again.

The only reason I haven't locked this thread by deleting my original post is that I haven't yet read all the responses. I'm not sure if deleting the original post will make it impossible for me to read all the responses.

-- Ron

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Jeebo Mar 2021 OP

Research finds that childhood trauma and lack of empathy are two of the most reliable predictors of WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #1

It's difficult to tell whether legalizing sex work would reduce rapes. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #2

Here is why your argument doesn't work: Bettie Mar 2021 #3

Yes, and that's what an incel is. They feel they are entitled JI7 Mar 2021 #10

You have shown me that power is one motivator of rape. Jeebo Mar 2021 #25

So women who are victims of rape should just be happy Bettie Mar 2021 #35

Apparently the woman should feel SORRY for the rapist because he was just so 'horny." hlthe2b Mar 2021 #38

Right? Bettie Mar 2021 #43

I am proud of those like you who are speaking out from their own experience. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #45

No, of course that's not what I'm saying. Jeebo Mar 2021 #39

I don't know about that Mossfern Mar 2021 #49

Jesus. I'm so sorry. LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #68

Oh, Mossfern... hlthe2b Mar 2021 #73

This is not a new premise. Law enforcement specializing in sexual assault have maintained hlthe2b Mar 2021 #4

Do those studies absolutely exclude sex as another motivator of rape? Jeebo Mar 2021 #27

I believe a signficant proportion never even complete the sex act or maintain an erection and thus hlthe2b Mar 2021 #28

I do not "equate rape to sexual desire" Jeebo Mar 2021 #36

Then why does chemical castration fail in most cases? hlthe2b Mar 2021 #37

I am not claiming any such thing. Jeebo Mar 2021 #41

Rape is not stolen sex, you say? REALLY? Good gawd. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #51

That is the exact opposite of what I said. Jeebo Mar 2021 #61

No. It has no effect on reading responses. If you are ashamed as you SHOULD be, then hlthe2b Mar 2021 #64

If I were in the Senate, I would be a Democrat. Jeebo Mar 2021 #67

I understand fully that you are trying to normalize and thus defend rape hlthe2b Mar 2021 #69

No offense, but... MoonchildCA Mar 2021 #71

... demmiblue Mar 2021 #5

I think views are changing Mosby Mar 2021 #16

Sexual gratification possible only through violence or force over another is truly exerting POWER hlthe2b Mar 2021 #29

I am not trying to normalize or justify rape. Jeebo Mar 2021 #46

That is EXACTLY what you are doing hlthe2b Mar 2021 #48

I'm not "trying to diminish the crime of rape" -- I'm trying to EXPLAIN it. Jeebo Mar 2021 #54

You are trying to "explain" it by normalizing it to mere sexual desire. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #57

Trying to identify motivating factors is not "normalizing" it. Jeebo Mar 2021 #65

Trying desperately to find an uncontrollable motivation, does, indeed normalize the behavior and hlthe2b Mar 2021 #66

Again, you are reading something into my words that IS NOT THERE. Jeebo Mar 2021 #74

Good. I credit you for doing so. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #75

I won't argue a well-constructed point of view. Aristus Mar 2021 #6

Exactly. A horny person can self gratify, and not rape. In my mind, as a woman who was LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #11

This must be a difficult topic for you to discuss. Aristus Mar 2021 #13

Thank you. I really appreciate the kind words. 🌹 LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #14

I have a bumper sticker that reads "Mean People Suck" Jeebo Mar 2021 #30

Thank you. My key chain says "mean people suck." I spend my time now with very few LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #55

Thank you for speaking up, LiberalLoner. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #32

❤️🌹 LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #56

++++ hlthe2b Mar 2021 #31

Whatever the alleged reason, Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #7

I don't see why it has to be either/or wryter2000 Mar 2021 #8

I see your point...but I don't share it. Moostache Mar 2021 #9

"Contrary to your assertion, sex IS STOLEN in rape" Jeebo Mar 2021 #18

There was an attempt to chemically castrate sex offenders in previous decades. It did not hlthe2b Mar 2021 #34

I don't know anything about chemical castration. Jeebo Mar 2021 #50

Obviously, there is quite a lot you are not informed about. So that makes this thread hlthe2b Mar 2021 #52

You might appreciate this book: Mike 03 Mar 2021 #12

Rape is about power was and is still an important assertion aikoaiko Mar 2021 #15

Oh boy. No comment because there would be no point. Treefrog Mar 2021 #17

Not to throw another variable in.... Delarage Mar 2021 #19

Gender is not a statistically relevant variable. Rape is still about power. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #23

I think it also has to do with the fact that when teen boys dsc Mar 2021 #26

True. Boys have been socialized to "score" with women. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #63

Power over another can be manifest by coercion and not only through violence. hlthe2b Mar 2021 #40

I totally agree with your position. Thanks for writing, as we need to.. LAS14 Mar 2021 #20

Rape is about power and that power is manifested by the forceful, unwanted, taking of sex. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #21

Just no. Squinch Mar 2021 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Mar 2021 #24

Equating power only with social dynamics is ridiculous. Race or even gender does not prevent hlthe2b Mar 2021 #42

You don't need sex to live, so the comparison to a starving man stealing food isn't a good one fishwax Mar 2021 #33

+1 thank you for explaining this so well. LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #59

It is about power romana Mar 2021 #44

I think there are a bunch of reasons. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2021 #47

Sigh. Rape is violence. Period leftstreet Mar 2021 #53

Either scenario you describe is still about power Lars39 Mar 2021 #58

"Sex often is a powerful drive, and if there is no outlet for it, it can drive somebody nuts." IcyPeas Mar 2021 #60

I agree 100%. I still remember my adolescence. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #70

If his right hand functions, it's not about sex. JohnnyRingo Mar 2021 #62

I agree that this original post should be deleted. It is more harmful than helpful. LiberalLoner Mar 2021 #72

Okay. Jeebo Mar 2021 #76