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16. He was probably just having a bad day....

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another white male mass killer arrested alive by the police [View all] samsingh Mar 2021 OP

Had it been a Black man, he would have been dead.. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2021 #1

Had it been a Black man, he would have been dead.. taxi Mar 2021 #4

Had it been a Muslim, he would have been-- um... Bucky Mar 2021 #113

Real world events are not cynicsm. What are you saying? nt taxi Mar 2021 #115

this is not about religion, its about racism against visible minorities and skin color samsingh Mar 2021 #171

and then his reputation attacked by made up or exaggerated talking points samsingh Mar 2021 #170

Senator Bracy of Orlando is considering entering the race for Governor taxi Mar 2021 #175

Today Shevrin Jones and the Black caucus stood with The African-American Clergy Alliance. (tweet) taxi Mar 2021 #179

they want this guy to fry..remember he killed one of their own.... samnsara Mar 2021 #2

'they want this guy to fry' Celerity Mar 2021 #3

Okay, they want him to rot in prison for life.. whathehell Mar 2021 #14

works for me Celerity Mar 2021 #15

Me too. whathehell Mar 2021 #20

so either way the police are making a determination on who rots in prison and who they kill samsingh Mar 2021 #21

I'm well aware whathehell Mar 2021 #26

not mass shooters barbtries Mar 2021 #31

Big dif? whathehell Mar 2021 #34

the difference is barbtries Mar 2021 #35

..and many white.mass shooters have been killed on the spot. whathehell Mar 2021 #37

that's a good point samsingh Mar 2021 #54

first, they were arrested and not caught in the act. samsingh Mar 2021 #172

Overplayed?!! Solomon Mar 2021 #177

i don't understand how black men being executed by the police is overplayed. samsingh Mar 2021 #180

Would you prefer "Overstated"? whathehell Mar 2021 #181

They'll pull and Epstein n/t aggiesal Mar 2021 #79

For this Boulder cop killer?..Whatever for? whathehell Mar 2021 #136

Just to NOT say they killed him n/t aggiesal Mar 2021 #149

No, there's little to no need for the "cloak and dagger" with mass shooters whathehell Mar 2021 #155

Naaaah, they probably took him out for a burger UpInArms Mar 2021 #6

Um, no, that was Georgia.. whathehell Mar 2021 #18

True ... UpInArms Mar 2021 #19

Um, no, that was south carolina Dawgman49 Mar 2021 #25

Um, no, the "bad day" Asian spa killings happened in Atlanta last week whathehell Mar 2021 #29

South Carolina (I assume you are talking about Dylann Roof) and Snopes called it false Celerity Mar 2021 #27

Yes, I know about Dylann Roof. whathehell Mar 2021 #30

taken out vs brought too doesn't change the fact he was treated humanely vs many black males uponit7771 Mar 2021 #39

non sequitur Celerity Mar 2021 #52

Thank you for this. This will upset quite a few people's applecart lol. Treefrog Mar 2021 #92

exactly samsingh Mar 2021 #22

That isn't the point. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #17

This is acceptable collateral damage Cosmocat Mar 2021 #36

I am so furious UpInArms Mar 2021 #5

I've watched several videos of all those black men being shot or killed by police but nothing distur Chipper Chat Mar 2021 #7

Me, too UpInArms Mar 2021 #8

Did the cop who jumped out of the car to shoot Tamir robbob Mar 2021 #9

He is Syrian. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #141

He doesn't appear black or brown UpInArms Mar 2021 #156

He looks Middle Eastern, Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #164

I do so you enjoy your life UpInArms Mar 2021 #165

If he were black, or Muslim, or an immigrant... spinbaby Mar 2021 #10

He is a Syrian Immigrant. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #87

Oopsie. I had a feeling this was going to happen. Jumping to conclusions is never a good thing. Treefrog Mar 2021 #95

he is not a black man - that is the key samsingh Mar 2021 #173

Had it been a black man, he'd be dead. ancianita Mar 2021 #11

strangled, shot, or fallen out of a window samsingh Mar 2021 #53

Did he have a bad day? IronLionZion Mar 2021 #12

George Floyd, a black American, Upthevibe Mar 2021 #13

the police have pulled a murderous con the american people aided by white supremists and cowards samsingh Mar 2021 #24

Was that cop that got killed part of this con? Treefrog Mar 2021 #99

no - but let's get serious and look at the number of unarmed black men and women that get killed samsingh Mar 2021 #122

He was probably just having a bad day.... Mars and Minerva Mar 2021 #16

A Black man could never have gotten far from his car with a rifle, even if CO is an FailureToCommunicate Mar 2021 #23

i thought i read on here that there was a study done that most of these trigger happy folk AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #28

They had the time to cut open the roof bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #32

Justice will come. colorado_ufo Mar 2021 #33

There's no justice involved, here. (nt) Paladin Mar 2021 #38

Yes, it is typically better that they are arrested, examined, and tried. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #90

You put that very well, and I do understand and appreciate your kind response. colorado_ufo Mar 2021 #146

It is a fraught issue for sure. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #148

Is he white? His name is not one normally one would associate with a white man. Treefrog Mar 2021 #40

given that he's alive i would be shocked if he wasn't white. samsingh Mar 2021 #41

His name is Ahmad Alyssa. I'd be shocked if he was white. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #45

lol Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2021 #55

Somehow I don't think that's what the OP had in mind. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #66

DI (and others) missed the joke. NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #73

Is it Ayssa or Al-Issa ? seeing both GusBob Mar 2021 #46

It's Al-Issa. I found his FB Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #47

Any idea about his motivation? Mosby Mar 2021 #56

No. His FB is pretty typical. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #58

He ran in wearing nothing but his boxers Sapient Donkey Mar 2021 #62

He was wearing body armor that at some point was removed. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #67

Really? I have heard that. I may be mistaken, but I thought a story I read said an unclothed man ran Sapient Donkey Mar 2021 #168

I think, looking for weapons, they stripped the suspect GusBob Mar 2021 #76

He's still classified as white and to the police he would be white from a distance samsingh Mar 2021 #49

Boy. Our middle eastern friends will be happy to know they're treated just like whites. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #50

the suspect is alive while a Black Man would have been shot or stangled samsingh Mar 2021 #51

So? You do realize things can happen independently? Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #57

We'll see, they find out this guy is Muslim they wont take him hamburgers any more or some shit uponit7771 Mar 2021 #65

We'll see how DU approaches this since it doesn't fall into their shooters trope. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #71

Syrians are mostly Caucasian, his skin being white is what is what they see and everything uponit7771 Mar 2021 #75

maybe i should have just said, the killer will not be 'black' and likely not 'asian' samsingh Mar 2021 #174

I think we're seeing the comic absurdity BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #94

Do you know many Syrians? By Census they consider THEMSELVES white skinned and they are uponit7771 Mar 2021 #108

I find it more sad than funny. jcmaine72 Mar 2021 #139

I'm pretty sure I know exactly how du will approach it. The many threads of outrage about the Treefrog Mar 2021 #98

I know, right? BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #69

It is so common, in these situations, for knee jerk reactions GusBob Mar 2021 #72

Nobody does knee jerk like we do here. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #74

Ya I learned along time ago, wait GusBob Mar 2021 #77

But in our case it is the left knee that jerks Steelrolled Mar 2021 #140

If you say so BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #143

It was a joke. Steelrolled Mar 2021 #147

And now the pretzeling begins. Treefrog Mar 2021 #96

This thread has aged like a shrimp cocktail sitting outside on a 100 degree day BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #80

Funny over the years I lurked here that I noticed this propensity of du to immediately blame a Treefrog Mar 2021 #101

This one should have been deleted hours ago BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #106

It's really breathtaking. I wish I were that limber! I'd be a hit in yoga class! Treefrog Mar 2021 #111

Well about 90 minutes ago sarisataka Mar 2021 #121

Yes, I'm sadly not surprised. BY tomorrow, I'll probably have to search for this thread. Treefrog Mar 2021 #135

Americans are the best at killing. twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #42

That guy in the photo looks a lot older than the 21 year old they identified . Aerator Mar 2021 #44

premature balding Celerity Mar 2021 #63

And in Texas... WestofDenver Mar 2021 #59

he wasn't white, his name is Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa Celerity Mar 2021 #60

He's Syrian IINM, they're mostly Caucasian he's technically white even though US culture doesn't uponit7771 Mar 2021 #68

That is completely counterfactual. In the US, UK, Sweden, and all other nations he is not going Celerity Mar 2021 #81

I disagree, not only is the shooter text book Caucasian his skin color is white and he was treated uponit7771 Mar 2021 #82

you are just way off, sorry, you are misrepresenting reality to fit your narrative Celerity Mar 2021 #91

Syrians in the US are white by Census, facts matter (link). uponit7771 Mar 2021 #103

Ask 1000 Syrians in the US if they think they are beneficiaries of white privilege, and if they get Celerity Mar 2021 #109

More irrelevant, Syrians consider themselves white and are called white by census and this uponit7771 Mar 2021 #118

I have no idea why you are trying to whitewash US anti-middle eastern racism, and toss Syrians Celerity Mar 2021 #125

Oh, I have a good idea why. Kinda sad in a way. Treefrog Mar 2021 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2021 #84

I guess Glaisne Mar 2021 #61

Yeah, apparently that courtesy extends to white guys named...Ahmad BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #64

Nah, its mostly about skin color (pic) but get your point once they find out him might be Muslim uponit7771 Mar 2021 #70

While the police killed [black]Elijah McClain while he apologized for not doing anything wrong iluvtennis Mar 2021 #78

Yep, Syrians are mostly Caucasian and so is the shooters skin color which is what some police ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #83

That's some pretty solid spin BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #85

facts matter uponit7771 Mar 2021 #88

Indeed BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #93

+1000 Celerity Mar 2021 #100

FACT NOT IN DISPUTE: Syrians are white by US Census. Your ad homs and "bets" aren't facts uponit7771 Mar 2021 #104

Also not in dispute: A studious eliding of how "unwhite" Syriac-Americans were recently friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #124

Oh boy, you're really trying here aren't you? Treefrog Mar 2021 #105

To highlight some LEOs treat people different based on skin color !? Fuck yes! Are you claiming uponit7771 Mar 2021 #107

Ok, it's ok. It didn't turn out like you and some others expected. It's ok, all ok. Treefrog Mar 2021 #110

So yeah, figured you wouldn't answer the simple question I asked. whatever uponit7771 Mar 2021 #114

I'm sorry, but when people start with personal insults, it's obvious that either a) they've lost the Treefrog Mar 2021 #117

Please highlight where I proffered insults in any way? If you can't consider answering the uponit7771 Mar 2021 #119

I recommend a cup of tea. It works wonders. Treefrog Mar 2021 #120

Some might say he "looks just like a Muslim terrorist" GusBob Mar 2021 #112

+1, probably now but at the point of arrest they most likely thought he was white and called him suc uponit7771 Mar 2021 #116

'they most likely thought he was white' Celerity Mar 2021 #127

"Shooter was a white male ...."?!?! What point are you trying to make? uponit7771 Mar 2021 #128

have fun digging the hole deeper, I am done Celerity Mar 2021 #129

Another dodge, they're going around these days, 🙄🙄🙄 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #130

Seriously fella, give it a rest for awhile. Your attempts to make a Syrian refugee into a privileged Treefrog Mar 2021 #133

lol, he IS a white man ... omfg. Your "views" of him doesn't change that uponit7771 Mar 2021 #151

I didn't 'dodge' anything, I fully expressed why I think you are completely wrong 🙄🙄🙄 Celerity Mar 2021 #138

He wasn't completely unharmed. LisaL Mar 2021 #102

A good thing for that shooter that he wasn't just some random motorist. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #86

+1, my understanding lack of top leadership who don't care about or look at bad actors records ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #89

I think there is a certain amount of "gotta keep up the dept's good name" going on, as well. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #123

September 8, 2014 - King Soopers, Kroger Stores Targeted for Gun Policies by Moms Group taxi Mar 2021 #97

Not exactly the kind of white male we were expecting, eh? jcmaine72 Mar 2021 #126

The killer is a white male; what kind of white male were YOU expecting? W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #142

He's a Syrian immigrant. What people are commenting on is that had people known he was not a Treefrog Mar 2021 #150

The OP did not state anything about where the man was from or whether he was an immigrant or not. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #157

Where did I say the op said anything different? You sure you read my post? Treefrog Mar 2021 #158

I think it is you that need to follow the conversation more closely. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #161

Sorry, this frequently rehashed comparison doesn't work brooklynite Mar 2021 #131

Um....not so much..... Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #134

"Not so much" to what exactly? W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #144

Is he not Syrian? Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #152

Neither Syrian nor Arab is a race. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #159

Seeing the title, I knew this thread would be a fascinating Steelrolled Mar 2021 #137

So Middle Easterners are white now? I need to keep up with the lingo. WarGamer Mar 2021 #145

It's embarrassing this thread hasn't been self deleted. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #153

It really is. TheProle Mar 2021 #154

And the absolute refusal to admit an obvious, and somewhat justified mistake FrankBooth Mar 2021 #160

The worst part is always the doubling down that now inevitably occurs following eff-ups like this jcmaine72 Mar 2021 #163

"Middle Eastern" isn't a race. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #162

+1 n/t ChazII Mar 2021 #166

Named Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, and from Syria. nt pnwmom Mar 2021 #167

he is not a black or asian man. samsingh Mar 2021 #169

Yesterday they took Rico Marley alive in Atlanta. A black man. Armed with six guns. Treefrog Mar 2021 #176

again - it's not that it never happens samsingh Mar 2021 #178