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DFW

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62. There is a fundamental difference between the Weimar Republic and today's USA
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 05:38 AM
Mar 2021

The government of the Weimar Republic was in chaos because every tiny splinter party that could elect one member to their parliament got in, and held things up with their grandstanding. People were hurting badly economically still from the after-effects of World War I and the reparation payments the victors had imposed. Post-war West Germany wisely instituted a rule that no party got representation in the Federal or State parliament unless they got at least 5% of the vote. This prevented "Die Republikaner," a Neo-Nazi movement in the 1980s, from gaining any solicitations as a coalition partner. They couldn't manage to get 5% of the vote where they ran. Today's mildly watered-down far right movement, the AfD does manage to get over 5%, but still, no other party in Germany (so far, anyway) will have them in a coalition, even if it means being out of power. It is a line no other party in Germany is willing to cross.

The Nazis basically offered the same things the Trumpanzees did 80 years later. You need us to save you from the chaos, we will make our country great again. After all, "Nazi" is nothing more than an abbreviation of the German word for "nationalist," or "National" as in "National Socialist," the official name for their movement, "Nationalsozialismus."

Although the signs are there, in the end, I don't see the Republican Party breaking up. To do so means they lose Senate and House seats right and left, and thus their relevance. My guess? They will continue to flirt with extremism for as long as it keeps them powerful. When and if their financiers should decide that there is no longer an incentive to do so (if that moment ever comes!), they will go back to the Javits-Dirksen-Ford-Dole mode of days of yore. They aren't conservative--not as the word is defined in English, anyway--by any stretch of the imagination. They just hijacked the term, as if going inside a garage really DOES turn you into a car. To the current crowd of crazies, we are "libbruls" and they are "conserv'tives," and if pressed, they couldn't give you an accurate description of what either term means. I'm quite confident that if Charles Koch suddenly decides that his influence will be enhanced by having the Senate Republican Caucus led by Mitt Romney or Lisa Murkowski lead their faction rather than Moscow Mitch, it would be so within weeks of his decision. We'd marvel at the turn of events, and we'd never find out why. The crazies out in the hinterlands would follow, because that's what they do. They do not lead, never have.

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There's No One Left [View all] NanceGreggs Mar 2021 OP
I was thinking about this yesterday Skittles Mar 2021 #1
In Those Days, You Could Still Disagree COL Mustard Mar 2021 #8
YES Skittles Mar 2021 #31
Take a look at the 1956 Republican Platform OMGWTF Mar 2021 #49
wow Skittles Mar 2021 #51
The last Republican who had any integrity wnylib Mar 2021 #2
I think Romney is a loyal American..as are a handful of others prodigitalson Mar 2021 #37
Those Georgia election officials wnylib Mar 2021 #40
K&R, damn never EVERYONE of them are repeating the Big Lie to justify 1/6 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #3
I agree they're all stupid-as-fuck idiots OhioChick Mar 2021 #4
Word. Hanging is too good for them. OMGWTF Mar 2021 #50
The reason they are gone is a 40 year long program of recruiting ideologues whose Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #5
They Started Down This Path COL Mustard Mar 2021 #9
I's say at least 60 year.. Tommymac Mar 2021 #27
I think the abolition of earmark spending removed prodigitalson Mar 2021 #38
The QAnon faction The Wizard Mar 2021 #57
When I was very young, as in "looking forward to my teenage years" DFW Mar 2021 #6
Funny To See What Falls Church Was Like COL Mustard Mar 2021 #11
I lived there pre-beltway DFW Mar 2021 #12
I've Lived In The DMV Since The Mid-80s COL Mustard Mar 2021 #13
Our house WAS considered very avant-garde at the time DFW Mar 2021 #26
When I was married I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #41
It was a sleepy little town when I was growing up DFW Mar 2021 #61
Where do you think it will go from here? Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #15
I think their split is possible. prodigitalson Mar 2021 #39
Lol! It's called Nazi Wives by James Wyllie. Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #47
There is a fundamental difference between the Weimar Republic and today's USA DFW Mar 2021 #62
Thanks for a very considered answer. I tend to agree but I don't Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #65
The midterms will indeed be crucial DFW Mar 2021 #66
You're the first to get one of the references that made me choose my new name! Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #67
Back when I was in school DFW Mar 2021 #71
Lol. But I feel bad for them bc they miss so much. Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #72
That makes two of us! DFW Mar 2021 #73
I Came Of Age In The Mid 1970s COL Mustard Mar 2021 #7
The republican party has always been corrupt, reason why Roosevelt had to start a 3rd party Escurumbele Mar 2021 #10
Much as I admire TR speak easy Mar 2021 #16
Larry Hogan? speak easy Mar 2021 #14
Nance's OP is written in bold colors to highlight a painful truth Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #17
Agreed. speak easy Mar 2021 #18
I live in Maryland I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2021 #44
They've been awful my whole life. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #19
I'm 47, I remember this class of Republicans, but its faint. apnu Mar 2021 #21
This only happens because it wins local elections apnu Mar 2021 #20
It's called Gerrymandering. nt Tommymac Mar 2021 #28
This Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #43
You can't Gerrymander a senate seat apnu Mar 2021 #48
Those are mostly unopposed by dems or dems run republican light and lose uponit7771 Mar 2021 #64
Name a State with an Incumbent Republican Senator today you could beat with a "real" Democrat brooklynite Mar 2021 #68
PA BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #69
Texas, Beto or Castro could whoop Cornyn's his racist ass with the right message. The message uponit7771 Mar 2021 #70
Believe it or not, here in MA, our District had a GOP Congressman MissMillie Mar 2021 #22
I voted for Senator Edward Brooke. marie999 Mar 2021 #24
Kick dalton99a Mar 2021 #23
I remember those Republicans from when I was young. planetc Mar 2021 #25
K & R jalan48 Mar 2021 #29
The most depressing aspect of the take over of the economic and political agenda by extremely ShazamIam Mar 2021 #30
Well said, Nance. K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Mar 2021 #32
I hear you, Nance! Hell, I will even admit to having VOTED for a Republican ... 11 Bravo Mar 2021 #33
I voted for Senator Howard Baker back when I lived in Tennessee yellowdogintexas Mar 2021 #60
Send it to Manchin. moondust Mar 2021 #34
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The Limbaugh effect. Kingofalldems Mar 2021 #36
A very articulate description of a defunct Political Party. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #42
It will be a glorious day when the GOP and its henchmen dies. world wide wally Mar 2021 #45
This ... soldierant Mar 2021 #46
Aaron Van Lingdeveld (sp). Per Rachel Maddow grantcart Mar 2021 #52
Money in politics/elections and the end of the Fairness doctrine Bristlecone Mar 2021 #53
Nope, no one. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #54
Hence the Lincoln Project qwlauren35 Mar 2021 #55
So true. Pepsidog Mar 2021 #56
+ 1,000 nt Progressive Jones Mar 2021 #58
I was becoming politically alert, then active between ... electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #59
To align with your thoughts, the money quote from President Biden yesterday BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #63
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