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Emrys

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17. Meanwhile, its envronmental impact is shamefully staggering:
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 03:44 PM
Apr 2021
Why Bitcoin Is Bad for the Environment
Cryptocurrency mining uses huge amounts of power—and can be as destructive as the real thing.

Money, it’s often said, is a shared fiction. I give you a slip of paper or, more likely these days, a piece of plastic. You hand me eggs or butter or a White Chocolate Mocha Frappuccino, and we both walk away satisfied. With cryptocurrency, the arrangement is more like a shared metafiction, and the instability of the genre is, presumably, part of the thrill. Dogecoin, a cryptocurrency that was created as a spoof, has risen in value by eight thousand per cent since January, owing to a combination of GameStop-style pumping and boosterish tweets from Elon Musk. On Tuesday, which backers proclaimed DogeDay, the cryptocurrency was valued at more than fifty billion dollars, which is more than the market cap of Ford. Coinbase, a cryptocurrency exchange, went public last Wednesday; almost immediately, it became worth more than G.M.

The mainstreaming of cryptocurrency, as it’s been called, is obviously a big deal for the world of finance. It’s also a big deal for the world of, well, the world. This is particularly true in the case of the ur-cryptocurrency, Bitcoin. Like Dogecoin, bitcoin has recently surged in value. In April, 2020, a coin was worth about seven thousand dollars; today, it’s worth more than fifty-five thousand. (It hit a record high of $64,895.22 on April 14th, but has since fallen off.) As the cost of investing in bitcoin has soared, so, too, has the potential profit in “mining” it. Bitcoin mining is, of course, purely metaphorical, but the results can be every bit as destructive as with the real thing.

According to the Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index, bitcoin-mining operations worldwide now use energy at the rate of nearly a hundred and twenty terawatt-hours per year. This is about the annual domestic electricity consumption of the entire nation of Sweden. According to the Web site Digiconomist, a single bitcoin transaction uses the same amount of power that the average American household consumes in a month, and is responsible for roughly a million times more carbon emissions than a single Visa transaction. At a time when the world desperately needs to cut carbon emissions, does it make sense to be devoting a Sweden’s worth of electricity to a virtual currency? The answer would seem, pretty clearly, to be no. And, yet, here we are.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-bitcoin-is-bad-for-the-environment
I worked briefly a few years ago for some guys that were into the Blockchain Bitcoin stuff kimbutgar Apr 2021 #1
That's why I'm holding Flooz bucks. Celebrity endorsed! n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2021 #2
Is it "As Seen on TV"? Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #3
I've got my Bert Bucks under lock and key... Hugin Apr 2021 #9
You can never go wrong with S&H Greenstamps. ret5hd Apr 2021 #26
Perfect! (nt) NoRethugFriends Apr 2021 #29
I've always figured it is just Bettie Apr 2021 #4
I agree with Taleb obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #5
"The best strategy for investors is to own things that produce yields in the future." cf GOLD speak easy Apr 2021 #6
More like the Tulip Bulb Bubble zipplewrath Apr 2021 #7
Massive and fatal flaws in that analogy- tulips are not fungible assets, bitcoins are. Celerity Apr 2021 #44
Tulips. It's just tulips all the way down. hedda_foil Apr 2021 #8
You were probably joking but please do not eat tulip bulbs. efhmc Apr 2021 #14
Tulip Mania was the bitcoin of its day in 1630s Holland. hedda_foil Apr 2021 #36
There is a movie about it. Pretty good. efhmc Apr 2021 #38
but what about - OhZone Apr 2021 #10
Nassim Taleb states the obvious PufPuf23 Apr 2021 #11
Taleb is also a defender of homeopathy, a rabid, paranoid anti-GMO CT purveyor, came close in the Celerity Apr 2021 #45
Watching people who I would charitably characterize as "not that smart" pumping Doge last greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #12
lol Bitcoin is almost dead!!!1 RandiFan1290 Apr 2021 #13
Probably the all-time cringe AF thread winner, but hardly surprising, as if my life would be forfeit Celerity Apr 2021 #28
Right? FrankChurchDem Apr 2021 #34
Exactly, lost cause here... JCMach1 Apr 2021 #41
I've never even attempted to either Pluvious Apr 2021 #58
and the US has a horrific digital gap, hopefully we can help bridge that, I know its a priority for Celerity Apr 2021 #61
It's such a relief to no longer have a "transactional" leader at the helm Pluvious Apr 2021 #62
I agree. The question is whether Bitcoin will take the entire economy with it when it fails . . . StatWoman Apr 2021 #15
Don't forget the S&L scam fest of the '80s. Hugin Apr 2021 #49
I'm no economist NQAS Apr 2021 #16
I was at a conference with a bunch of execs from Enron back then. GumboYaYa Apr 2021 #19
Meanwhile, its envronmental impact is shamefully staggering: Emrys Apr 2021 #17
Wow! empedocles Apr 2021 #24
Yeah, between this aspect... OneGrassRoot Apr 2021 #31
It's a pretty simple fork to make BTC, Proof of Stake JCMach1 Apr 2021 #42
I'm unsure what your argument is NickB79 Apr 2021 #51
That can be shifted at any time with a software fork... JCMach1 Apr 2021 #60
The best thing Bitcoin has done is creating industry experience HariSeldon Apr 2021 #18
At a consumer level Sgent Apr 2021 #35
HODL GANG for the 2-1!!! Moostache Apr 2021 #20
No one knows for sure how crypto currency will play out. Yavin4 Apr 2021 #21
I think of them as virtual Beanie Babies. hunter Apr 2021 #22
discussion of the enormous energy costs on the radio the other day nuxvomica Apr 2021 #23
There's a huge energy cost per transaction as well, even after the coins are "mined." hunter Apr 2021 #33
Might as well buy shares in private utility companies Metaphorical Apr 2021 #25
As a marker of greed, of history shattering proportions - crypto currencies have no peer. empedocles Apr 2021 #27
Currencies are backed Tomconroy Apr 2021 #30
One major solar flare like the carrington event and bit coin's value vanishes... Binkie The Clown Apr 2021 #32
Tbh that's the least of our problems if that happens Calculating Apr 2021 #37
If a Carrington event occurred, currency would be bullets and bottled water NickB79 Apr 2021 #52
Especially since almost all transformers are made in China these days. Binkie The Clown Apr 2021 #53
I am thinking Bottlecaps. cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #59
Bitcoin Explained... lame54 Apr 2021 #39
This? hunter Apr 2021 #46
The ease of their creation Johonny Apr 2021 #40
It is tremendously hard and expensive now to make a new block. Celerity Apr 2021 #43
Might be hard to make a Bitcoin, but there are a lot of options. rgbecker Apr 2021 #47
I only have BTC, and I do not trade it at all, I do not invest in other crypto atm Celerity Apr 2021 #48
Do you believe the value of a Bitcoin will increase forever? rgbecker Apr 2021 #50
of course it will not increase forever, and there are a finite amount of bitcoins Celerity Apr 2021 #55
Can you really call it an "investment", not a gamble? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2021 #54
I do not trade crypto, and BTC is divisible (massively so) Celerity Apr 2021 #56
It's the 21st century equivalent of fool's gold. Initech Apr 2021 #57
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