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In reply to the discussion: James Carville is speaking the hard truth [View all]abqtommy
(14,118 posts)15. Thanks for your much-appreciated insight.
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I do agree with him that we need to change our language and messaging
USAFRetired_Liberal
Apr 2021
#3
I'd have to add that they don't really KNOW what we stand for; only what Fox propaganda
BComplex
Apr 2021
#34
If you feel there are no moderate voters (I or R) to appeal to, we should give up...
brooklynite
Apr 2021
#42
Every word. Carville nails it and is spot on. Exactly what Thomas Frank wrote in 2004 in his book
Ninga
Apr 2021
#6
James Carville's version of "It's the economy, stupid" had us jumping from one
Baitball Blogger
Apr 2021
#7
And when we lost in 2000 because for some reason...voting for a Democrat is hard for some
Demsrule86
Apr 2021
#103
You know, you who are against the Woke phenomenon have a short memory.
Baitball Blogger
Apr 2021
#117
He took some heat for saying dems are too woke, but overall, he made some spot on observations, IMO.
CrispyQ
Apr 2021
#8
This argument about self-branding may already be obsolete. Recall Biden's speech last night.
Eyeball_Kid
Apr 2021
#26
We lost the Florida governorship last time by the slimmest of margins.
cinematicdiversions
Apr 2021
#84
How odd that you would bring up something that happened two years AFTER the election
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#89
+1, own our positions and attack republicans for not being American enough to accept them !!!
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#82
Yes we need to craft a message that is a winning message....defund the police was never going to
Demsrule86
Apr 2021
#106
+1, "They also get their framing out their fast " & they have feedback thats even faster. They lurk
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#74
+1, people are bending over backwards to relate to Carville no matter how wrong he is ...
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#59
Could you show me any poll were dtp lost anyone any race? EarlG just responded in a post to this
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#78
+1, there are easier votes to get among the suppressed and disengaged than the middle. That doesn't
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#83
There is not need to advance the word 'woke' ....civil rights works for me.
Demsrule86
Apr 2021
#108
Sorry, the people who really know and who are voting don't care to have their issues re-framed to
joetheman
Apr 2021
#16
And if they could win elections all by themselves...it wouldn't matter but the house was won by
Demsrule86
Apr 2021
#110
We're not going to stop using a 100 yr term because unaware white people want us to, that's stupid.
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#22
Well if the term causes election losses...what have you gained? And it might. I hope not.
Demsrule86
Apr 2021
#111
If you have polling proof, not just claims of people we respect, that a slogan was the reason ...
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#114
A 1990's truth...and have we made progress since then. Have we moved the country to the left?
Demsrule86
Apr 2021
#112
Maybe you should educate yourself on what he said before complaining about
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#44
OMG!!1! Let's not frighten the scared old white people who'll never vote for us anyway!
Pinback
Apr 2021
#46
The 2022 Midterms should give us a good idea how the woke strategy is working for us and whether
jalan48
Apr 2021
#47
The difference between Republican messaging and Democratic messaging usually seems to be
Lonestarblue
Apr 2021
#48
If it's about vocabulary, he shouldn't be telling us to "abandon wokeness"
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#58
This term has been in use for more than 60 years and yes, there IS a common definition
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#70
SF school district renaming schools commemorating Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson
andym
Apr 2021
#67
False, this is an example of an ingroup (white people) taking the term of an outgroup (black..
uponit7771
Apr 2021
#79
Funny when Black and Brown people speak our minds and a white person is offended, we need to shut up
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#94
Can you be more divisive? That is very disrespectful to those who don't agree with you.
Demsrule86
Apr 2021
#115
I'm not sure I agree w Carville. I don't agree that we need to go for the white
FlyingPiggy
Apr 2021
#119
Why is that when Carville says something that offends lots of people - especially people of color
StarfishSaver
Apr 2021
#125