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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,857 posts)
25. White guy tells marginalized groups how they should talk.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:37 AM
Apr 2021

Yeah, I see nothing gross and out of place with that. Nope. Sounds about white.

Bookmarked to read later today. dixiechiken1 Apr 2021 #1
This link takes you directly to the article Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #2
I do agree with him that we need to change our language and messaging USAFRetired_Liberal Apr 2021 #3
Exactly StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #5
I'd have to add that they don't really KNOW what we stand for; only what Fox propaganda BComplex Apr 2021 #34
I think they know what we stand for. StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #39
I think you are right. Caliman73 Apr 2021 #63
If you feel there are no moderate voters (I or R) to appeal to, we should give up... brooklynite Apr 2021 #42
How links work on DU: Make7 Apr 2021 #4
Every word. Carville nails it and is spot on. Exactly what Thomas Frank wrote in 2004 in his book Ninga Apr 2021 #6
James Carville's version of "It's the economy, stupid" had us jumping from one Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #7
And when we lost in 2000 because for some reason...voting for a Democrat is hard for some Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #103
You know, I was around during the nineties. Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #109
It's interesting that the 90s and 2000 have been brought up as examples StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #116
You know, you who are against the Woke phenomenon have a short memory. Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #117
Did you intend to direct this to me? StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #121
In retrospect, no. It certainly doesn't apply to what you posted. Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #123
He took some heat for saying dems are too woke, but overall, he made some spot on observations, IMO. CrispyQ Apr 2021 #8
This argument about self-branding may already be obsolete. Recall Biden's speech last night. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2021 #26
We lost the Florida governorship last time by the slimmest of margins. cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #84
How odd that you would bring up something that happened two years AFTER the election StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #89
Gilliam wasn't unappealing. That is why he almost won. cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #92
Honestly, Gwen Graham would have won most likely. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #104
The problem is he's accepting the republican spin on what "wokeness" is. brush Apr 2021 #9
His point is, we make it easy for the Repubs to do that Sugarcoated Apr 2021 #41
yeah right. CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #62
+1, own our positions and attack republicans for not being American enough to accept them !!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #82
Good stuff. Agreed. brush Apr 2021 #97
Yes we need to craft a message that is a winning message....defund the police was never going to Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #106
I don't know that was an official message CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #118
Like "Biden hates meat" ? ... thx in advance uponit7771 Apr 2021 #81
"Wokeness" is a mindset. "Defund the Police" is a slogan StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #88
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #80
See, the average fish eater would choose an orange roughy over a slimehead. gulliver Apr 2021 #10
That's exactly why the GOP are so skilled at framing issues pandr32 Apr 2021 #38
85%-15% was the favorability breakdown CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #64
+1, "They also get their framing out their fast " & they have feedback thats even faster. They lurk uponit7771 Apr 2021 #74
In all the time I've been following politics EarlG Apr 2021 #11
Well-said ibegurpard Apr 2021 #14
Thanks for your much-appreciated insight. abqtommy Apr 2021 #15
Agree gratuitous Apr 2021 #18
IKR? StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #20
Perfectly said. Thank you! StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #19
+1 LizBeth Apr 2021 #23
I agree with your synopsis cynical_idealist Apr 2021 #28
You're on the mark. But already, Eyeball_Kid Apr 2021 #29
He didn't do anything Carville called for. He did just the opposite StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #32
+1, people are bending over backwards to relate to Carville no matter how wrong he is ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #59
Carville has never really been a good democrat. At times, however, he ... Whiskeytide Apr 2021 #77
Could you show me any poll were dtp lost anyone any race? EarlG just responded in a post to this uponit7771 Apr 2021 #78
I don't disagree with anything you've said. But ... Whiskeytide Apr 2021 #98
Absolutely utopian Apr 2021 #30
Thank you wryter2000 Apr 2021 #31
+1, there are easier votes to get among the suppressed and disengaged than the middle. That doesn't uponit7771 Apr 2021 #83
OP WORTHY !!!!!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #57
Definitely need this as an OP! n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2021 #65
One Other Thing To Consider DallasNE Apr 2021 #75
+1 demmiblue Apr 2021 #86
Yes "Counterattack"! No reason to go Cha Apr 2021 #102
Those kids and their rock-and-roll devil music. This is what Politicub Apr 2021 #12
It sounds like good advice from an experienced campaign guy to me. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #107
There is a point when even experienced people become Politicub Apr 2021 #124
Carville lives with a woman who voted for Trump twice ibegurpard Apr 2021 #13
There is not need to advance the word 'woke' ....civil rights works for me. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #108
Sorry, the people who really know and who are voting don't care to have their issues re-framed to joetheman Apr 2021 #16
And if they could win elections all by themselves...it wouldn't matter but the house was won by Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #110
No he isn't. johnp3907 Apr 2021 #17
Not For Tender Ears Me. Apr 2021 #21
We're not going to stop using a 100 yr term because unaware white people want us to, that's stupid. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22
Well if the term causes election losses...what have you gained? And it might. I hope not. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #111
If you have polling proof, not just claims of people we respect, that a slogan was the reason ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #114
Rev Al agrees LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #24
Yes, please stop using Latinx in campaigns! LeftInTX Apr 2021 #43
I have lived in Texas all of my life and I had never heard this term LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #68
Here: LeftInTX Apr 2021 #73
Rt TY! Cha Apr 2021 #101
White guy tells marginalized groups how they should talk. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2021 #25
word. KG Apr 2021 #33
+1 demmiblue Apr 2021 #85
Carville might be speaking a 1990's "truth"... Wounded Bear Apr 2021 #27
A 1990's truth...and have we made progress since then. Have we moved the country to the left? Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #112
Carville 's wrong and he's been wrong for a long time. KG Apr 2021 #35
He is not wrong actually. He is sounding a warning and we should listen. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #113
No, he is pumping up RW framing and attacking his own (supposed) party. Celerity Apr 2021 #36
I'll put a pin in it for now. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #37
I haven't bothered to check out what he said. I know the kind of Hortensis Apr 2021 #40
Maybe you should educate yourself on what he said before complaining about StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #44
No, he's not. Touchy sorts have taken offense at his Hortensis Apr 2021 #51
Being accused of being touchy is pretty rich StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #52
Frame The Party of the Rich as The Party of the Rich. Period. czarjak Apr 2021 #45
OMG!!1! Let's not frighten the scared old white people who'll never vote for us anyway! Pinback Apr 2021 #46
You and EarlG are spot on. johnp3907 Apr 2021 #54
The 2022 Midterms should give us a good idea how the woke strategy is working for us and whether jalan48 Apr 2021 #47
The difference between Republican messaging and Democratic messaging usually seems to be Lonestarblue Apr 2021 #48
We could work on simpler messaging LeftInTX Apr 2021 #49
This is true StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #56
Carville makes a point but he also misses 2 or 3. Ford_Prefect Apr 2021 #50
It's about the vocab, imho. Duppers Apr 2021 #53
If it's about vocabulary, he shouldn't be telling us to "abandon wokeness" StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #58
Will read this later, n/t Martin Eden Apr 2021 #55
The "Latin-X" fad needs to go away. Dawson Leery Apr 2021 #60
From what I'm seeing, the "Latin" community is torn on this. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2021 #87
he may make some decent points. But he's wrong. CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #61
Wokeness DallasNE Apr 2021 #66
This term has been in use for more than 60 years and yes, there IS a common definition StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #70
It's the opposite of sleepness. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #72
SF school district renaming schools commemorating Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson andym Apr 2021 #67
That's not "wokeness" StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #71
Probably the most perfect example of what Carville was talking about. Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #76
False, this is an example of an ingroup (white people) taking the term of an outgroup (black.. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #79
Thanks for agreeing! andym May 2021 #126
This sounds like FOX talking points StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #91
We could stop putting dead white guys on a pedestal Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2021 #93
Biden's election is proof. joshcryer Apr 2021 #69
only non-woke people think and speak like this bigtree Apr 2021 #90
Funny when Black and Brown people speak our minds and a white person is offended, we need to shut up StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #94
it's insidious bigtree Apr 2021 #95
He said something stupid and he's catching the right amount of shit for it. Iggo Apr 2021 #96
Came back to read both articles and I gotta say, I agree with Carville. dixiechiken1 Apr 2021 #99
A thread for white people to vent. Voltaire2 Apr 2021 #100
+1 StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #105
Can you be more divisive? That is very disrespectful to those who don't agree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #115
I'm not sure I agree w Carville. I don't agree that we need to go for the white FlyingPiggy Apr 2021 #119
I believe him to be an extremely smart yet simple man. RegularJam Apr 2021 #120
This ☝️☝️☝️ dixiechiken1 Apr 2021 #122
Why is that when Carville says something that offends lots of people - especially people of color StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #125
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