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23. Those are not an easier option. The process will absolutely have to include

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:07 PM

Apr 2021

(for poltical reasons) a binding plebiscite favouring statehood. That outcome is in no way guaranteed. The vast, vast majority of DC, on the other hand, has demanded DC statehoood for decades.

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Joe Manchin announces he is opposed to DC statehood [View all] TomDaisy Apr 2021 OP

Does this issue affect his own re-election chances in some way? MisterNiceKitty Apr 2021 #1

What it effects is his power Silent3 Apr 2021 #3

Oh well Biden should see if he can one to two Republicans to vote on his side MisterNiceKitty Apr 2021 #5

You need 11 Republicans to break a filibuster if Manchin is opposed. tritsofme Apr 2021 #10

Biden has been a sitting US Senator for decades MisterNiceKitty May 2021 #31

DC statehood just isn't going to happen in this Congress. tritsofme May 2021 #32

Exactly. His power derives from a divided Senate. And power is all he cares about. lagomorph777 May 2021 #55

He's not expected to run again. brooklynite Apr 2021 #14

source please, TIA Celerity Apr 2021 #29

Ah, now that's interesting MisterNiceKitty May 2021 #30

it would be more interesting if they backed up that claim with some evidence Celerity May 2021 #33

Brunchtime gossip? LanternWaste May 2021 #39

He's taken over the Susan Collins position and his flexing his power and seeking attention. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #27

He's from a State that voted for Trump @70% pace. WarGamer May 2021 #43

PR + USVI is the easier option. maxsolomon Apr 2021 #2

Those are not an easier option. The process will absolutely have to include Celerity Apr 2021 #23

In that there is no Constitutional Amendment standing in the way maxsolomon Apr 2021 #24

there is NO constitutional amendment requirement standing in the way of making DC a state. Celerity Apr 2021 #26

Thanks, but Manchin's hanging his hat on that one. maxsolomon May 2021 #38

he is playing disinfo games, the constitution is clear as a freshly washed window on it Celerity May 2021 #42

Constitution or not, he's against it. WarGamer May 2021 #44

And not only is he false in his reasons, but his obstructionism is immensely harmful to our party & Celerity May 2021 #45

Like my Dad used to say, "It is what it is." WarGamer May 2021 #46

'it is what it is' is usually capitulation, resignation, and acceptance of defeat Celerity May 2021 #47

Deal with it means passing less controversial legislation. WarGamer May 2021 #48

Highly, highly doubtful that we get 10 Rethugs to cross lines on most of those, and what about the Celerity May 2021 #49

DC, HR1 and Police stuff is dead. WarGamer May 2021 #50

If they are, we and the nation are in truly dire straits, we will very likely get smashed in the Celerity May 2021 #53

I still believe good governance wins elections. WarGamer May 2021 #54

hard to pass laws when most things of import that aren't reconciliation-eligible will not see a vote Celerity May 2021 #56

They can negotiate with Mitch. WarGamer May 2021 #58

LMAO aocommunalpunch Apr 2021 #4

Of course he is. It would make him irrelevent. ZonkerHarris Apr 2021 #6

THIS! 👍 Manchin is doing this to hold onto the power and attention he craves. Self-Serving Act! TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #28

So he wants to change the rules in the middle of the game in a way that disadvantages only DC? Bleacher Creature Apr 2021 #7

He's one of ours, but... hlthe2b Apr 2021 #8

He may have a "D" behind his name but he isn't "one of ours" by any stretch. n/t SheilaAnn Apr 2021 #9

it is not necessary to have a constitutional amendment to admit a new state.... nt msongs Apr 2021 #11

Yeah Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #12

Exactly. How do you think Alaska and Hawaii became states JohnSJ Apr 2021 #16

Or West Virginia being carved out of Virginia in the middle of the Civil War. Efilroft Sul May 2021 #34

actually that only was legal due to the war dsc May 2021 #36

Yep. I suppose I should've added that DC's entry to the Union would be less dubious than WV's. Efilroft Sul May 2021 #37

At this point Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #13

Yes MustLoveBeagles May 2021 #40

I'm so sick of Manchin Luciferous Apr 2021 #15

I wonder what the Republicans got on him Dave says Apr 2021 #17

ego. my state might be little but I'm a big man! TomDaisy Apr 2021 #18

Given the pressured nastiness of his replies Dave says Apr 2021 #25

ENOUGH budkin Apr 2021 #19

He's not this dumb, he is lying, he has other reasons to oppose DC statehood... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #20

We'll see if he goes back on his word right now it doesn't look positive uponit7771 Apr 2021 #21

A Constitutional Amendment is NOT needed to make DC a state. Celerity Apr 2021 #22

I'm my tired of this creep scale. Joe's at 9 out of ten Johonny May 2021 #35

That is a white supremacist position. David__77 May 2021 #41

Not even a tiny bit surprised? Bettie May 2021 #51

Shocker bermudat May 2021 #52

What does he want now? gldstwmn May 2021 #57