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Celerity

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47. 'it is what it is' is usually capitulation, resignation, and acceptance of defeat
Mon May 3, 2021, 02:57 PM
May 2021

IF we do not somehow put into place impactful modifications of the filibuster, then most of Biden and the party' non-reconciliation included agenda will be dashed upon the rocks of Rethug obstructionism. Biden can but do only so much via Executive Orders. The voter rights/protections bills alone not being passed would be a massive systemic blow.

Also, I have not even (I so hope Manchin and Sinema do NOT have the nerve nor stones to even go here) dealt much with the possibility that even reconciliation is potentially in serious jeopardy. On at least that, I think Manchin and Sinema will be simply beaten down and cave in due to combined force of the rest of the Party. IF they actually do go there, as say nope, no reconciliation other than extremely limited, micro targeted legislation, then Biden will likely be a one term POTUS. Again, I am nowhere near that level of pessimism on at least that specific thing.


Deal with the situation.

Gaming it out (pardon the pun), IF they do not cave and the filibuster rules stays as they are now, I am all ears as to what you would do to 'deal with it'. The bills are not going to magically pass themselves, as they will never come to a vote. What are your plans/suggestions?

Does this issue affect his own re-election chances in some way? MisterNiceKitty Apr 2021 #1
What it effects is his power Silent3 Apr 2021 #3
Oh well Biden should see if he can one to two Republicans to vote on his side MisterNiceKitty Apr 2021 #5
You need 11 Republicans to break a filibuster if Manchin is opposed. tritsofme Apr 2021 #10
Biden has been a sitting US Senator for decades MisterNiceKitty May 2021 #31
DC statehood just isn't going to happen in this Congress. tritsofme May 2021 #32
Exactly. His power derives from a divided Senate. And power is all he cares about. lagomorph777 May 2021 #55
He's not expected to run again. brooklynite Apr 2021 #14
source please, TIA Celerity Apr 2021 #29
Ah, now that's interesting MisterNiceKitty May 2021 #30
it would be more interesting if they backed up that claim with some evidence Celerity May 2021 #33
Brunchtime gossip? LanternWaste May 2021 #39
He's taken over the Susan Collins position and his flexing his power and seeking attention. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #27
He's from a State that voted for Trump @70% pace. WarGamer May 2021 #43
PR + USVI is the easier option. maxsolomon Apr 2021 #2
Those are not an easier option. The process will absolutely have to include Celerity Apr 2021 #23
In that there is no Constitutional Amendment standing in the way maxsolomon Apr 2021 #24
there is NO constitutional amendment requirement standing in the way of making DC a state. Celerity Apr 2021 #26
Thanks, but Manchin's hanging his hat on that one. maxsolomon May 2021 #38
he is playing disinfo games, the constitution is clear as a freshly washed window on it Celerity May 2021 #42
Constitution or not, he's against it. WarGamer May 2021 #44
And not only is he false in his reasons, but his obstructionism is immensely harmful to our party & Celerity May 2021 #45
Like my Dad used to say, "It is what it is." WarGamer May 2021 #46
'it is what it is' is usually capitulation, resignation, and acceptance of defeat Celerity May 2021 #47
Deal with it means passing less controversial legislation. WarGamer May 2021 #48
Highly, highly doubtful that we get 10 Rethugs to cross lines on most of those, and what about the Celerity May 2021 #49
DC, HR1 and Police stuff is dead. WarGamer May 2021 #50
If they are, we and the nation are in truly dire straits, we will very likely get smashed in the Celerity May 2021 #53
I still believe good governance wins elections. WarGamer May 2021 #54
hard to pass laws when most things of import that aren't reconciliation-eligible will not see a vote Celerity May 2021 #56
They can negotiate with Mitch. WarGamer May 2021 #58
LMAO aocommunalpunch Apr 2021 #4
Of course he is. It would make him irrelevent. ZonkerHarris Apr 2021 #6
THIS! 👍 Manchin is doing this to hold onto the power and attention he craves. Self-Serving Act! TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #28
So he wants to change the rules in the middle of the game in a way that disadvantages only DC? Bleacher Creature Apr 2021 #7
He's one of ours, but... hlthe2b Apr 2021 #8
He may have a "D" behind his name but he isn't "one of ours" by any stretch. n/t SheilaAnn Apr 2021 #9
it is not necessary to have a constitutional amendment to admit a new state.... nt msongs Apr 2021 #11
Yeah Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #12
Exactly. How do you think Alaska and Hawaii became states JohnSJ Apr 2021 #16
Or West Virginia being carved out of Virginia in the middle of the Civil War. Efilroft Sul May 2021 #34
actually that only was legal due to the war dsc May 2021 #36
Yep. I suppose I should've added that DC's entry to the Union would be less dubious than WV's. Efilroft Sul May 2021 #37
At this point Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #13
Yes MustLoveBeagles May 2021 #40
I'm so sick of Manchin Luciferous Apr 2021 #15
I wonder what the Republicans got on him Dave says Apr 2021 #17
ego. my state might be little but I'm a big man! TomDaisy Apr 2021 #18
Given the pressured nastiness of his replies Dave says Apr 2021 #25
ENOUGH budkin Apr 2021 #19
He's not this dumb, he is lying, he has other reasons to oppose DC statehood... Humanist_Activist Apr 2021 #20
We'll see if he goes back on his word right now it doesn't look positive uponit7771 Apr 2021 #21
A Constitutional Amendment is NOT needed to make DC a state. Celerity Apr 2021 #22
I'm my tired of this creep scale. Joe's at 9 out of ten Johonny May 2021 #35
That is a white supremacist position. David__77 May 2021 #41
Not even a tiny bit surprised? Bettie May 2021 #51
Shocker bermudat May 2021 #52
What does he want now? gldstwmn May 2021 #57
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