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NNadir

(33,474 posts)
38. Fact check.
Mon May 3, 2021, 04:10 PM
May 2021

Jimmy Carter's energy ideas included FT gasoline. (Fischer-Tropsch = FT) This is a coal to liquids process and was based on the idea that the US had vast reserves of coal. At the time these processes were operating in Apartheid South Africa after having been industrialized in Nazi Germany. There have been no other industrial energy operations quite as dirty as FT "coal to liquids." Humanity is quite fortunate that effort failed.

He also shut down nuclear fuel reprocessing.

The latter choice was nowhere as disastrous as the former would have been, but neither the proposal nor the policy were good for the environment.

The idea that energy conservation would save the world was frankly contemptuous of the billions of non-Americans who lacked access to energy. It is unsurprising that Chinese and Indians did not agree to remain desperately impoverished so Americans could feel secure in their lifestyle while gasification/liquefaction of coal went industrial. The death toll associated with air pollution and climate change would have been even worse than the appalling numbers we are now seeing, most of which can be attributed to the demonization of nuclear energy.

Jimmy Carter is an outstanding human being for whom I voted twice. I cannot however characterize these primitive energy ideas, which might be excused in his time because we lacked enough insight to understand why they were bad ideas, as "visionary."

We are lucky they didn't come to pass.


K&R Solly Mack May 2021 #1
This is so bittersweet redqueen May 2021 #2
glad he gets to see it NJCher May 2021 #32
So many, What Could Have Been's.... Bayard May 2021 #3
I voted for him twice and have no regrets. halfulglas May 2021 #4
Carter's Sec of Transportation ordered "seat belts in all cars" & saved tens of thousands of lives. Stuart G May 2021 #5
I think it would be hard to agregate exactly how many lives were saved ColinC May 2021 #18
Sadly, true pandr32 May 2021 #6
K & R & Amen! BadgerMom May 2021 #7
So glad this is finally being done Rural_Progressive May 2021 #8
We turned from such a decent man ... and went to Trump mainer May 2021 #9
Jimmy Carter: appmanga May 2021 #19
your language is appropriate mainer May 2021 #21
NO OFFENSE TAKEN. AZ8theist May 2021 #27
FUCK TRUMP. roamer65 May 2021 #34
Fuck Raygun! Fuck him and BushI burrowowl May 2021 #37
Hate radio has done its job effectively. lpbk2713 May 2021 #25
Not quite. It speaks as it did then to the effectiveness of the RW propaganda machine Ford_Prefect May 2021 #26
Carter and tRump are the difference between actual faith and religiosity. 2Gingersnaps May 2021 #28
Even my Republican mother said... SergeStorms May 2021 #10
Too good for his time and now... Boomerproud May 2021 #14
I agree. Caliman73 May 2021 #11
Gore had it. milestogo May 2021 #12
KNR. I keep dreading the headline I know is coming. niyad May 2021 #13
Me too. When I saw the Bidens visited the Carters a week or 2 ago... CaptainTruth May 2021 #15
Exactly what I thought. niyad May 2021 #22
krb Baltimike May 2021 #16
Exactly seta1950 May 2021 #17
If we'd gone to renewable energy, then not so many Wars For Oil and dead people. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #20
YES!! bluestateboomer May 2021 #23
Not only have I always thought that JEC was a severely underrated President, BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #24
coincidence. Not lookyhereyou May 2021 #39
Raygun made a deal PhylliPretzel May 2021 #42
In a long and horrible history of sleazy moves, this one is a show-stopper. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #45
Of course he wasright malaise May 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise May 2021 #30
The hostage rescue heckles65 May 2021 #31
Volcker singlehandedly killed off American manufacturing. roamer65 May 2021 #35
1980 brought us Con Man #1, 2016 brought us Con Man #2 rickyhall May 2021 #33
I always wondered what the hell we were doing NJCher May 2021 #36
Fact check. NNadir May 2021 #38
Couldn't agree more! Drum May 2021 #40
"Carter was our only president who had a visceral environmental and ecological attachment. " Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #41
a true Commander in Chief, too RicROC May 2021 #43
President Carter. Snackshack May 2021 #44
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