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betsuni

(25,380 posts)
15. And the excuses were so stupid.
Tue May 18, 2021, 02:56 AM
May 2021

She was paid for a speech.

Money contributed by people working for corporations or financial institutions is corrupting. Fundraising is corrupting. PACs wanting to elect Democrats, all lobbyists are corrupt (even those who lobby for environmental protections and green energy, etc., apparently). Democrats "take" money from the donor class, billionaires and corporations and Wall Street -- bribed to stop anything progressive (ignore their goal of repealing Citizens United, taxing the wealthy and corporations, regulating Wall Street). All that money goes straight into their pockets, not to, like, pay for things. All dysfunction in government comes from money in politics, obstructionist Republicans have nothing to do with it. Democrats are the true roadblock to progressive legislation (Michael Moore).

She used the word "super-predator" in 1996 to describe drug cartels, gangs and the mob and people believed the lie that she said it in 1994 to support the crime bill then and that it was racist, that Hillary was personally responsible for putting everyone in jail because she's racist (heard that one a lot, Russians really liked it).

Unlikeable, inauthentic, shrill, overconfident, arrogant, gravely ill, wearing a full body brace.

"80% of her supporters are paid shills," echo chamber, cheerleaders, stupid: personal attacks. Trump supporters were merely nice people suffering from economic insecurity.

Can't be trusted/liar (when Hillary was judged to be the most honest of all candidates in 2016).

Didn't talk about jobs (when the most frequent word in her speeches was the word "jobs" ), only ran as "not Trump" and had no message, only ran as a woman because of "identity politics."

Establishment, status quo, neoliberal, centrist, donor class, liberal elite, coastal elite, Third Way, incrementalism, milquetoast, conservadem, complacent, corporatist, 1%, Wall Street, Goldman Sachs, oligarchs, won't fight for anything.

Clinton Foundation as corrupt for collecting "many dollars from foreign governments which are dictatorships."

The DNC apparently is a powerful diabolical group that rigs everything so Democrats are evil, corrupt and bad.

Vote my conscience, send a message, hold feet to the fire, lesser of two evils (while insisting the idiom doesn't mean that Hillary is evil), hold my nose, speak truth to power, voting as an expression of personality or brand rather than a civic duty.

Insisting everything's about policy but attacking character: corrupt and immoral, warmonger, more dangerous than Trump.

90s trade deals caused changes in manufacturing jobs, not automation and the choices of corporations. All Democrats fault!

The myth that Democrats have shifted right for 40 years and hate the working class and unions (ignore the most progressive platforms in history of Obama, Hillary Clinton, Biden).

Something called the "Clinton Machine."

All incredibly stupid. And there's so much more!

Couldn't vote for HRC? So where are we now? [View all] Stinky The Clown May 2021 OP
Too true. But it's too late to cry comradebillyboy May 2021 #1
Never to late to hold them accountable for their actions. Budi May 2021 #6
It's never too late to cry Redleg May 2021 #20
I am not sure whether BlueMTexpat May 2021 #21
Not as long as the suffering that "I just don't LIKE her" stupidity brought on continues. Hortensis May 2021 #31
+1 betsuni May 2021 #37
+1! BlueMTexpat May 2021 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy May 2021 #2
Most of them don't care about abortion rights and most likely are ok with taking it away JI7 May 2021 #3
As noted by the absolute mysogny of the two men who started the group.. Budi May 2021 #5
Control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 as well as the fate of Roe v. Wade LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #4
K & R Thank You! Budi May 2021 #7
well, you know -- because the 'party' just wasn't listening ... stopdiggin May 2021 #14
Yes indeed. I argued and argued that point, here and elsewhere. "Our side" can be very blind... Hekate May 2021 #8
Exactly. It was unforgivable. nt SunSeeker May 2021 #11
Don't be fooled The electoral college it still to blame RANDYWILDMAN May 2021 #9
"Kav, Roberts and Barrett had a role in Bush V Gore" Budi May 2021 #10
EC is an Achilles heel for sure stopdiggin May 2021 #16
True but wasn't Orange Hitler's margin of victory treestar May 2021 #43
Colin Kaepernick is some kind of hero here, but he didn't vote for Hillary. Treefrog May 2021 #12
I appreciate Kaepernick for what he's done. stopdiggin May 2021 #18
Colin was wrong about that Redleg May 2021 #19
Sorry, no excuses for those supposedly on our side who didn't vote for Hillary...Mitch could Demsrule86 May 2021 #40
I was unaware of that...then he too bears responsibility for Trump...and the 700,000 dead Demsrule86 May 2021 #41
Twenty years of the RW spewing lies about Hillary took its toll. Autumn May 2021 #53
Just curious NJCher May 2021 #13
it matters, who people vote for AND who they don't vote fo Skittles May 2021 #23
My point is about the efficacy of such an approach. NJCher May 2021 #24
maybe not Skittles May 2021 #25
Ok, well, then NJCher May 2021 #26
like I said, fuck them Skittles May 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill May 2021 #30
And that many of those were the same people . So these people have an agenda JI7 May 2021 #33
fyi NJCher May 2021 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill May 2021 #48
damn straight Skittles May 2021 #55
It's about calling out their bs . They aren't misguided types . They have an agenda JI7 May 2021 #34
who is "they"? NJCher May 2021 #44
Yes, Iknow their motive.Many of them ended up supporting Donald Trump . Glen Greenwald is one of the JI7 May 2021 #47
that's just one person NJCher May 2021 #50
No, it was many more. JI7 May 2021 #51
sure NJCher May 2021 #54
+1 betsuni May 2021 #46
Democrats should not need to be convinced. After the primary there are only two choices- Demsrule86 May 2021 #36
Those who did not vote for Hillary should feel guilt for the rest of their days...we Demsrule86 May 2021 #39
And the excuses were so stupid. betsuni May 2021 #15
EXCELLENT overview summary! Stinky The Clown May 2021 #38
Thank you. There's so much more, it's incredibly stupid. betsuni May 2021 #49
+1 million zillion treestar May 2021 #45
Happy NOW? calimary May 2021 #17
it makes me sick to think about Skittles May 2021 #22
Not just there .. in 2010 dems were gonna show President obama Fullduplexxx May 2021 #28
A guy here claimed to have moved to another country at the end of 2009 betsuni May 2021 #29
People like Susan Sarandon and Nina Turner who is running for congress in Ohio... Demsrule86 May 2021 #32
Kick mcar May 2021 #35
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