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wellst0nev0ter

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9. And being cavalier about not needing to improve actually harms us

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 03:12 PM

Jun 2021

Yes you worked hard, but you failed.

Do you shrug your shoulders and repeat the same mistakes again?

No, you find out what mistakes you do and don't repeat the mistakes.

Some say don't campaign on "defund the police," others say don't burn money on positive ads on "bipartisanship" when actual demons are demonizing you.

But the least you can do is NOT play interference against people who are pushing for change.

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Dems failed to sweep in 2020 because we brought daisies to a gunfight [View all] wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 OP

No worries, for 2020 and 2024 we plan to bring Roses. Dan Jun 2021 #1

At least roses have thorns on them... Initech Jun 2021 #27

Probably didn't sweep because GQP was cheating soothsayer Jun 2021 #2

Yes, also this wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #11

Yeah the only reason Marjorie Taylor Greene won... Initech Jun 2021 #23

Her opponent was young, naive, and tried to run as Jimmy Stewart. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #45

Also too, combatting death threats would help. Initech Jun 2021 #55

Death threats are completely unacceptable, but he would have lost anyway. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #57

Ya know.... CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #3

"Democrats worked their asses off to get what we do have and it was worth it." wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #4

The self flagellation doesn't help. At all. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #6

And being cavalier about not needing to improve actually harms us wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #9

What needs to improve??? CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #13

You should read my OP n/t wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #14

And, ya also know, the strategy of emphasizing the positive over blind attacks did land... TreasonousBastard Jun 2021 #15

It's what we do. UTUSN Jun 2021 #5

Dems control the House, the Senate and the Presidency. And we have another "Dems failed" post. Beastly Boy Jun 2021 #7

Dems can only pass three spending legislation this fiscal year wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #10

What you are describing are hardly failures. I wonder what your definition of failure is. Beastly Boy Jun 2021 #26

Yes, very successful in 2009-10 wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #32

And spend less time shopping for the finest, purest fabric dalton99a Jun 2021 #8

"daisies to a gunfight" BGBD Jun 2021 #12

Krasner won in Philly and Stansbury in New Mexico wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #18

Cherry picking BGBD Jun 2021 #38

Then pick some cherries wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #39

"Defund the police" was seriously terrible messaging. Initech Jun 2021 #34

+1 betsuni Jun 2021 #48

Some of us were not surprised by the election sarisataka Jun 2021 #16

Doesn't matter how many times the Debby Downers are right wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #19

I agree with you, but I also have one thing Bettie Jun 2021 #17

Yes, indeed. That factor alone was more fatal than "defund the police" wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #20

I'm in IA 1 Bettie Jun 2021 #21

Also the trumpanzees did the face-to-face canvassing wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #22

There was also the fact that two hi-profile Dems were loudly... brush Jun 2021 #37

"Nancy Pelosi" also costed us seats wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #40

What did Nancy Pelosi say that cost us seats? betsuni Jun 2021 #42

Was talking about the negative ads that mention "Nancy Pelosi" wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #46

You were replying to a comment about what people actually said. betsuni Jun 2021 #50

Goops ad starred Nancy Pelosi wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #53

IMO Pelosi has done a great job. What's your logic? brush Jun 2021 #44

Not talking about Pelosi's job, talking about negative ads about her wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #47

Come on, if you favor dumping her you have to do better than that please. brush Jun 2021 #51

Seriously, what? wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #54

Could've fooled me. Do a poll here to see if other Dems favor dumping her. brush Jun 2021 #56

+1 betsuni Jun 2021 #41

When Democrats did negative ads it was: Democrats can't just be the "I'm not Trump" party or betsuni Jun 2021 #24

Which Americans say they want bipartisanship? lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #28

Polls show the majority of Americans say they want bipartisanship. betsuni Jun 2021 #30

Link please? lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #31

This is common knowledge. Polls show Americans want bipartisanship. betsuni Jun 2021 #35

Well, we can keep pretending that would actually happen, lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #36

From the very same article: wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #43

Yes, please give the evidence backing this up wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #33

Yes, please. Use every legal weapon at our disposal. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #25

Nothing comes on a silver platter when set against 30 years of unopposed propaganda JHB Jun 2021 #29

Yes, goops are more organized in their messaging wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #49

Not more organized. Just willing to lie StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #52

But, but, but ChrisF1961 Jun 2021 #58

Democrats rehabilitated the GOP after Bush, too leftstreet Jun 2021 #59