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crimycarny

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14. An interesting chapter in "I Alone Can Fix it" on the lab-leak theory
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:40 AM
Jul 2021

I was just listening today to the audio version of "I Alone Can Fix It" by Carol Leonnig and Paul Rucker and there was a chapter about the growing suspicion early on from several virologists, including Dr. Fauci, that the virus may have leaked from the Wuhan Lab by accident (not on purpose, not as a bioweapon). This suspicion started growing right around the time Trump had his infamous briefing where he suggested injecting bleach.

The reasons for these suspicions were:

1) Zoonotic viruses usually aren't as easily transmissible in humans so soon from the time they first appear. And it usually jumps two species before that happens. SARS-V1 was more deadly but not nearly as contagious. SARS-V1 was positively linked back to an animal.

2) The virologists were suspicious due to the amazing adaptability of COVID-19. They have not seen this in a naturally occurring zoonotic virus, at least not one that had recently jumped species.

3) US Intelligence found that 3 Wuhan Lab workers were hospitalized with COVID-like symptoms in the Fall of 2019.

4) All animals from the Wuhan wet market were ruled out as the source of COVID-19

US State Dept. had warned in 2018 about lax safety precautions at the Wuhan lab and lack of training. Begged the US to provide extra assistant to the lab. Their warnings were ignored.

no, the delta varient attacks everyone, just a higher percentage of unvaccinated Shellback Squid Jul 2021 #1
it also means, "wear masks" and continue all pre-vax precautions. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #3
The death rate is about the same - Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #6
how many times does it need to be said: KEEP MASKING, EVERYONE Skittles Jul 2021 #2
Goddamn right! DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #4
these stupid, unmasked people are even more reason to stay masked Skittles Jul 2021 #10
No shit! 2naSalit Jul 2021 #5
Other countries (mostly with low vaccine rates) are requiring DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #7
Entry is mostly restricted... róisín_dubh Jul 2021 #8
As of July 2 DFW Jul 2021 #11
Yep. I'm still masking, too. calimary Jul 2021 #20
It's a common pattern for pandemics to last wnylib Jul 2021 #25
Until the data shows vaxed isn't working to prevent bedding and death?!?! Not going to wear two seat uponit7771 Jul 2021 #24
Yep. I walked out of a dance class at a rec center last week. tanyev Jul 2021 #28
yup Skittles Jul 2021 #42
This is like a bad hurricane season Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #9
Link to the study, there's some bits of good news in there madville Jul 2021 #12
Thank you for that link, madville DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #15
apparently gamma is popular in illinois orleans Jul 2021 #13
An interesting chapter in "I Alone Can Fix it" on the lab-leak theory crimycarny Jul 2021 #14
I have no personal position on the "Wuhan lab leak" theories. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #16
I don't think it was deliberate either crimycarny Jul 2021 #21
Warnings were ignored... Dopers_Greed Jul 2021 #17
You've heard of the Gamma variant for ages, but by its more common name (P.1 aka Brazilian variant) Celerity Jul 2021 #18
OK, I maybe heard of the 'Brazilian variant'.... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #19
I have always used the Pango names, not the Greek letters, BUT Delta has changed it for me Celerity Jul 2021 #22
Thank you, very much.. nt DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #45
Thanks for taking the time to put this information together for us. femmedem Jul 2021 #23
aww thanks! I enjoy your posts too Femmedem Celerity Jul 2021 #26
**THERE WERE NO SERIOUS ILLNESSES and ZERO HOSPITALIZATIONS among the miners!** hlthe2b Jul 2021 #27
It's a mental health issue at this point BannonsLiver Jul 2021 #31
Yes, it is certainly " a mental health issue" for me, DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #46
Thank you róisín_dubh Jul 2021 #36
I agree completely Andy823 Jul 2021 #40
I posted all the "facts" I had, it seemed to be important.. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #47
Oh shit... YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #29
Please read my post #27 and others from informed posters on this thread, rather than freak out. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #32
So? Do you think the op should remove this post? YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #33
What do you think? hlthe2b Jul 2021 #34
So why aren't you flagging this?? YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #35
You are making an argument I am NOT making myself. Posting something so that others can correct hlthe2b Jul 2021 #37
If you have the factsthen you should be responsible YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #38
Once again, I have not ever stated it violates the rules. It does not. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #39
Is it "inaccurate" ? I don't know. Is the source "a tabloid"? DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #48
Read the subthread especially #27 which is the scientific publication on which the tabloid hlthe2b Jul 2021 #50
EDIT: (in the OP) DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #49
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #30
Given the current time lag to get to the states... Javaman Jul 2021 #41
No hospitalizations or deaths. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #43
It's taking hold in Illinois WhiteTara Jul 2021 #44
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