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Algernon Moncrieff

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16. I hear what you are saying. Here is my thought.

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:38 PM

Aug 2021

The pandemic must end. Economically this is not sustainable. While I'll stop well short of saying "broad bipartisan support" it seems plausible that a coalition to amend the law could emerge.

My hope is that it doesn't come to that. There do seem to be flickers of hope that this latest Delta surge may finally be changing minds about getting vaccinated in Trump country.

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Should employer-based health plans now jack up rates on the unvaccinated? [View all] Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2021 OP

I agree but... JT45242 Aug 2021 #1

It isn't that it is a pre-existing condition - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #9

Being unvaccinated is not a health condition. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #36

It doesn't matter what you believe - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #40

Agree. But that sets precedent for charging people more for weight, alcohol, not exercising, etc. Hoyt Aug 2021 #2

Yes, as long as it doesn't lead to a slippery slope frazzled Aug 2021 #3

Employer-based health plans governed by the ACA can impose surcharges Ocelot II Aug 2021 #4

Agreed. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #8

LOLOL! ShazzieB Aug 2021 #37

Health insurance should have a "points" system like auto insurance Klaralven Aug 2021 #5

No it's a slippery and steep slope (n/t) luv2fly Aug 2021 #6

It's a slope that banned from existing fescuerescue Aug 2021 #25

Under the PPACA, employers cannot do that. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #7

Is the choice not to receive a vaccine a condition? Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2021 #10

In general, there are ony 5 reasons for disparate charges Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #12

refusing a vaccination is in the same boat as smoking.... groundloop Aug 2021 #27

The category is smoking, not "personal choice to put your own well being at risk" Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #28

Won't get far in court fescuerescue Aug 2021 #15

Why, after battling for years sarisataka Aug 2021 #11

Exactly. This is exactly one of the changes to ACA that the Republicans tried to pass fescuerescue Aug 2021 #14

+1 demmiblue Aug 2021 #18

+1 leftstreet Aug 2021 #26

They can't. That is illegal fescuerescue Aug 2021 #13

I hear what you are saying. Here is my thought. Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2021 #16

Any law can be changed fescuerescue Aug 2021 #24

Being unvaccinated is not a preexisting condition Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2021 #38

"pre-existing condition" is just a colloquial shorthand fescuerescue Aug 2021 #42

Do you have anything to back it up? LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #21

Yes. It's all here. fescuerescue Aug 2021 #23

I agree with the idea in principle, but what would follow would be horrible. Coventina Aug 2021 #17

They already do for some. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #20

Vaccinated should not pay for the stupidity of others. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #19

Cigarette smokers already pay an insurance surcharge for their future likelihood of disease... Hekate Aug 2021 #22

Unvaccinated people will cost insurance companies more ripcord Aug 2021 #29

It's not like asking people to give up fritos and cupcakes for life Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2021 #39

Mine does for smokers UTUSN Aug 2021 #30

No but conditional on giving them a choice between the ACA, or financial ruin. denbot Aug 2021 #31

Not an issue at my company. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #32

Good company you work for. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #33

Voted yes, my job is making everybody anyways... RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #34

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #35

I'm generally against any moves to make healthcare less accessible Sapient Donkey Aug 2021 #41

I don't think they're allowed to based on ACA law ecstatic Aug 2021 #43