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StarfishSaver

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11. Thank you

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 09:31 AM

Sep 2021

It's easy to look at isolated cases and assume they are aberrations and gin up outrage, especially among people who aren't familiar with how the criminal justice system works. Facts and context are important. Thanks for providing some.

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Some of the January 6th defendants have offered been negotiated pleas to misdemeanors with no [View all] Atticus Sep 2021 OP

Ignorance of the law is no excuse* HAB911 Sep 2021 #1

They all know what they did bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #3

When and by whom were they all told they were participating in a riot? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #22

I dunno. The cops outside the Capitol? Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #29

When this picture was taken, the Capitol had already been breached at other points StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #30

It's helpful to set expectations. Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #36

I believe the arrests and convictions of the insurrectionists are essential building blocks StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #42

Could you please cite specific sources? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #2

It pisses me off, they are damn domestic terrorists that tried Bluethroughu Sep 2021 #4

Not suprising Steelrolled Sep 2021 #5

And that's absolutely normal AkFemDem Sep 2021 #6

Armed insurrection and sedition are not "normal". nt Atticus Sep 2021 #9

Thank you StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #11

And you have no idea how "familiar" I am with how the justice system works. I have a different view Atticus Sep 2021 #14

Why do you think I was referring to you when pointing out some people aren't familiar with this? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #16

Disingenuity is not helpful. nt Atticus Sep 2021 #21

No, it's not StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #31

The other thing the OP ignores Effete Snob Sep 2021 #12

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You really don't like being challenged, do you? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #19

It is straw men and disingenuity I dislike. nt Atticus Sep 2021 #24

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a liar" is not a useful position Effete Snob Sep 2021 #27

+1000 StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #20

if they were white and middle class -- likely so. If they were white and rich all would be dropped JT45242 Sep 2021 #7

I think you have to examine each case individually to see the Tomconroy Sep 2021 #8

Do you believe anyone who entered the Capitol just "wandered in"? Were they not there to Atticus Sep 2021 #13

Some actually may have - but it has to be determined on a case by case basis StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #15

Agree with Starfish Saver. Case by case. Hortensis Sep 2021 #38

Without a social media confession it's hard to know what Tomconroy Sep 2021 #18

Our justice system is a joke. There needs to be a lot more consistency ecstatic Sep 2021 #10

Probation can mushroom into a ridiculously Phoenix61 Sep 2021 #23

Precisely Effete Snob Sep 2021 #26

This is 100% spot on. GregariousGroundhog Sep 2021 #37

Apart from the obvious white privilege and leniency on right-winger issues... Silent3 Sep 2021 #25

Unfortunately, Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #28

"Throwing the book" at someone sounds good StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #32

I agree with that but Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #39

Please post links to all felony to misdemeanour plea bargains Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #33

Good luck - I've asked for this repeatedly, but none have been forthcoming StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #35

Yeah, I'm guessing it was just vengeance driven hyperbole Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #40

This Is Why Judges Are Raising Hell About These Convenience Deals Me. Sep 2021 #34

I would hope the weed one would dsc Sep 2021 #41

Every one of them should serve life in jail. clementine613 Sep 2021 #43