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8. Your point is well taken. I had questions about the same issue until I ran across this piece
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:21 PM
Sep 2021

which points out how many medications have been retested since they were first introduced. The following was written by a Catholic priest opining on the hypocrisy of objecting to vaccines that had only been tested, not manufactured, using fetal cell lines. He prepared his thoughts with the help of Dr. Lisa Gilbert, MD.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/throughcatholiclenses/2021/01/if-any-drug-tested-on-hek-293-is-immoral-goodbye-modern-medicine/

Dr. Gilbert also shared some info on why HEK-293 testing is so ubiquitous.

This is often used in basic research, which helps to establish how diseases cause bad effects at the cellular level, such as on the cell receptors, ion channels or protein expression and folding. This knowledge allows researchers to look for or even create new medications to counteract these specific diseases more precisely, by targeting the cause and effects of diseases at the cellular and molecular level. More directly, HEK is used to test various medications and evaluate see their effects on the cells in-vitro.

This allows safety and efficacy testing to be done in the lab before medications are given to patients in clinical trials. Or HEK call lines may be used to study old medications that are already available and FDA approved. There may be new applications for these medications; knowledge of how these medications work at the cellular level will help in targeting diseases better. These medications may also have side effects or cause interactions on cells when combined with other medications. Studying this in the lab allows for side effects to be understood and mitigated. New medications in the same class can be developed that are safer or more effective. But all of these research possibilities require living cell lines and one of the most common ones chosen for such research is HEK.


Apparently, older medications are being retested in the lab all the time, either to improve them, or to develop replacements that are just as/more effective with fewer side effects. Hope this helps.
Are they going to give up Prep H after ivermectin? SheltieLover Sep 2021 #1
No!!!! They'll probably just eat Prep H. Enter stage left Sep 2021 #2
Lol SheltieLover Sep 2021 #9
Unenforceable. What are they going to do test everyone Runningdawg Sep 2021 #3
They did it with drug testing. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2021 #21
I wonder how much it would cost to test exempt employees for one month Runningdawg Sep 2021 #30
Calling their.bluff Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #4
Exactly! ShazzieB Sep 2021 #17
Wow, they were using fetal cell lines in 1900 when Pepto Bismol hit the market? Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #5
Interesting article. It even provides the answer to your question. Cerridwen Sep 2021 #6
I understand, but when you have 100+ year old medicines on the list Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #7
Your point is well taken. I had questions about the same issue until I ran across this piece crickets Sep 2021 #8
Thanks so much caraher Sep 2021 #31
Glad to hear it. crickets Sep 2021 #32
A little searching in medical journals will disclose how many old and new drugs Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #10
That's a different argument though Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #11
The criteria was development or testing. Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #13
And I'm saying IMHO the company chose arbitrary criteria Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #14
From a legal perspective, if you permit religious exemptions, Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #15
Okay, I'm fine with that too :) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #16
Why, though? Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #24
Because it comes off as a trite, 'gotcha' kind of move when you include 100+ year old meds? Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #27
I think that I totally disagree Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #28
Then we can agree to disagree :) nt Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #29
Y'all, you know they're just going to lie. littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #12
Preparation H is on the list? TexasTowelie Sep 2021 #18
They shouldn't be "swearing off". They should be marybourg Sep 2021 #19
These exemptions are scams LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #20
lol Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #22
Fun fact: Marius25 Sep 2021 #23
Well, yeah Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #25
+1 crickets Sep 2021 #33
Fuck off with your religious exemption... SidDithers Sep 2021 #26
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