Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

DFW

(54,256 posts)

15. Quite spot on

Reply to Tom Rinaldo (Original post)

Mon Oct 18, 2021, 05:44 PM

Oct 2021

For all her “concern” about her own party’s disgusting excesses, she has voted for those excesses when the time came to either stand up to, or with, Mitch McTurtle. For all his posturing, Manchin does tend vote with his party.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

23 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Better negotiating with Joe Manchin to get things passed than have to count on Susan Collins [View all] Tom Rinaldo Oct 2021 OP

and better not to negotiate through our illustrious media JohnSJ Oct 2021 #1

THIS Right Here. ⬆️ Budi Oct 2021 #4

Sad fucking state of affairs if that's where we are at berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #2

yep Tom Rinaldo Oct 2021 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #23

I think Manchin IS our Collins AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #3

Yes. He is. But he does vote with us. She doesn't most of the time. Hortensis Oct 2021 #6

That's kind of my point AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #9

Yes. And when she deviates it's because she's allowed to Hortensis Oct 2021 #12

It didn't result in his conviction, so I assume so AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #14

The only time she votes with Dems is if she gets a hall pass wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #20

Exactly. AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #21

The 2 don't even compare. 🙄 Budi Oct 2021 #10

Right. No comparison. Hortensis Oct 2021 #13

Nope. Not when you look at their record of voting. Budi Oct 2021 #17

It's NOT just Manchin. Budi Oct 2021 #7

Interesting way of looking at it. Tom Rinaldo Oct 2021 #8

And if we didn't need Manchin's (and Sinema's) votes, they'd be released to vote against AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #11

I don't trust Sinema, but Manchin wouldn't vote against if he could. Hortensis Oct 2021 #16

I'm giving Sinema quite a bit of latitude AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #19

Quite spot on DFW Oct 2021 #15

Count on Collins? Not in the equation. However we still have a Cinema problem. Raven123 Oct 2021 #18

Just like it's better to get one red-hot spike stabbed into one eye than it is to get two... Silent3 Oct 2021 #22