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Bernardo de La Paz

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16. Your other point about long-term choices is good too. Closely related to Con's family perimeter
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 05:17 PM
Nov 2021

RepubliQons are tuned into the 90-day event horizon of quarterly reports because it is consistent with their main personal economic theory of "grab all you can get as fast as you can".

It is closely related to the Cons idea of in-groups trump all out-groups. Concentric circles of family then circles of religion and race and finally of "country" (but not of the "other" people who make up the country and to hell with the rest of the world).

It is fundamentally the scarcity view of economics and the zero-sum game view.

But it's worse.

By constantly grabbing the here-and-now they turn it into a negative sum game, a race to the bottom.

The progressive view is that by helping all people, everything positive is raised including the family wealth the Cons are so obsessively concerned with. Helping the PTSD vet on the street by providing housing and a basic income results in lower costs (less policing/healthcare) and higher revenues (more taxes paid because more people working and higher paid jobs come in). Everywhere it has been tried, as far as I know. Just one example, of course.

That was from Eisenhower's "The Chance for Peace" speech and it was about how wasteful and unwise PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #1
Helps to know that Eisenhower was, proudly, a PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE. Hortensis Nov 2021 #26
Sure could use a Teddy about now. Pepsidog Nov 2021 #34
Economists call it "guns vs. butter" FakeNoose Nov 2021 #2
As an economics teacher, let me point out.... Bucky Nov 2021 #6
Economically, I see it as a Bomb is Dead Money and butter (machinists) is Productive use of money Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #14
Your other point about long-term choices is good too. Closely related to Con's family perimeter Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #16
Ike Slammer Nov 2021 #22
Your last sentence assumes Patton would have run for the office. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2021 #24
Patton Slammer Nov 2021 #29
I took it to mean that, with Patton standing in his light, Ike soldierant Nov 2021 #33
Not only for the poor and needy, wnylib Nov 2021 #46
He shows what a functional two party system could be JT45242 Nov 2021 #3
How many times do you hear the Publics call themselves Boomerproud Nov 2021 #20
Do they? IronLionZion Nov 2021 #25
Sounds like one of those far left Democrats we hear so much about in the media. jalan48 Nov 2021 #4
Yes it does...And I might add, this fellow "Eisenhower" knew a great deal about "guns" & used Stuart G Nov 2021 #5
He Was One Of The Original COL Mustard Nov 2021 #12
Our last great Republican President Polybius Nov 2021 #7
He could have run as a Democrat Klaralven Nov 2021 #9
In fact, he was the last legitimately-elected republican president. PSPS Nov 2021 #15
Yes he was FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Nov 2021 #35
See post 37 Polybius Nov 2021 #36
Hardly PSPS Nov 2021 #39
Really? Let's take HW, who ended up with 53.4% of the vote compared to Equomba Nov 2021 #40
Nixon 1968 was legit Polybius Nov 2021 #37
Sorry, no PSPS Nov 2021 #38
To answer in order: Polybius Nov 2021 #41
Raygun wouldn't have been running for re-electio FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #60
Now that's just silliness Polybius Nov 2021 #61
Yes indeed Rebl2 Nov 2021 #18
Yeah, Coolidge and Lincoln n/t Slammer Nov 2021 #30
Coolidge? Polybius Nov 2021 #42
You could argue for Coolidge TheFarseer Nov 2021 #52
If you can argue Coolidge then you can argue Reagan Polybius Nov 2021 #56
three Ike, Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln nt yellowdogintexas Nov 2021 #44
You'd have to agree there were 3, right? TheFarseer Nov 2021 #51
I don't see the comment as about guns, but ... JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2021 #8
...pro sports tickets, etc. Equomba Nov 2021 #13
Ok maybe I'm thinking about tickets to a Lions game. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2021 #28
The tax payer funded stadium's for sure! Lars39 Nov 2021 #49
Gimme my guns! Kingofalldems Nov 2021 #10
Back in the day, Birchers actually thought that. paleotn Nov 2021 #21
Eisenhower would be a left of center Democrat today. George II Nov 2021 #11
Why would that be true?..Here is why..Ike was in favor of all people's rights.. Stuart G Nov 2021 #17
Definitely. In fact, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #31
He was referencing the military industrial complex NickB79 Nov 2021 #19
I do think Biden will try to change this, but it won't be easy...and it will take time.. Stuart G Nov 2021 #27
Your comment is the best. Sums it all up. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #47
But you could say those billions funds millions of good paying US jobs. oldsoftie Nov 2021 #53
We never should have built a significant amount of our economy on military spending in the first pla NickB79 Nov 2021 #55
Why change when everything is so great. twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #57
The big problem is how the world is NOW compared to 60-70 yrs ago oldsoftie Nov 2021 #58
Republicans: IronLionZion Nov 2021 #23
He was a Cold War warrior, but also coined the "military-industrial complex" TomWilm Nov 2021 #43
Ike was definitely to the left of burrowowl Nov 2021 #45
A well regulated militia! The Jungle 1 Nov 2021 #48
What I miss the most from his era Dukkha Nov 2021 #50
Hardly anyone paid anywhere NEAR those rates though. oldsoftie Nov 2021 #59
Some observations... albacore Nov 2021 #54
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