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uponit7771

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45. KR admitted to knowing Rosenbaum was unarmed,

Tue Nov 16, 2021, 11:47 AM

Nov 2021

... this situation.

KR turned around and shot at an unarmed person chasing him, that's not "reasonable means to escape death" ... come on.

KR could've just kept running, he didn't ...

What KR defenders are claiming is open season in WI to

1. provoke an incident with KNOWINGLY unarmed person
2. run away from unarmed person claiming life is in danger
3. turn around and shoot armed person while running away

the 3rd part isn't "reasonable means to escape death" in this context knowing the person isn't armed and in the case of KR he could've ran away.

There have been too many cases of "duty to flee' that have defined this already.

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I've seen very little of the Rittenhouse trial. I have a question. [View all] Progressive Jones Nov 2021 OP

Yes left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #1

Where/when greytdemocrat Nov 2021 #2

He murdered 2 people. This trial is to determine whether or not he goes to jail for it. ms liberty Nov 2021 #11

Untrue. He killed two people FBaggins Nov 2021 #15

Legally, yes those hairs would split that way. But outside a court of law ms liberty Nov 2021 #18

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #44

no, you are a library posting annoying troll NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #48

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Nov 2021 #51

A little slow in the book stacks???? marble falls Nov 2021 #52

she's not a seed...but certainly seedy! NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #53

What the heck? I attracted a troll and I MISSED IT??? ms liberty Nov 2021 #55

Just library girl for the 4,886,545,334th time NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #56

In the cross examination by the procesecutor of Kyle Bluethroughu Nov 2021 #20

rittenhouse was an "active shooter" rampartc Nov 2021 #3

who was from waco? maxsolomon Nov 2021 #37

From what I've seen/heard of the autopsy report, Rosenbaum was indeed an aggressor. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #4

I have been watching the trial live on Court TV left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #5

Rosenbaum was at point blank range. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #6

Well, that is your opinion left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #7

Of course. No reason we can't be civil about this. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #13

His is backed up by the medical examiner and the reporter's testimony Amishman Nov 2021 #14

Correct Chille Nov 2021 #50

Your just focused on part two of the story Woodswalker Nov 2021 #8

Okie dokie smokey left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #10

"Walked after the crowd". Legal. He had as much a right to be there as anyone. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #12

it's good to read this janterry Nov 2021 #19

Yes DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #9

So much clearer than my answer FBaggins Nov 2021 #17

Many times. The problem is - that doesn't matter FBaggins Nov 2021 #16

That's a great question Bucky Nov 2021 #21

It is possible for multiple parties to have self-defense claims Sympthsical Nov 2021 #22

KR initiated the aggression by pointing his weapon at Rosenbaugh BEFORE the chase happened ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #24

I don't agree with the claim Sympthsical Nov 2021 #26

" You can't see anything in that picture." this is false, what was showed during the trial was clear uponit7771 Nov 2021 #29

Actually, in Wisconsin law, they can Sympthsical Nov 2021 #30

No they can't *CONTINUE* or even reinitiate provocation and aggression while running away ... uponit7771 Nov 2021 #34

Yes they can. The law, in WI. and nationally, disagrees with you. n/t Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #38

"reasonable means to escape from death" isn't shooting at people while running away after provoking uponit7771 Nov 2021 #39

If someone's trying to kill you, retreating while firing is entirely rational and preferable. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #41

KR admitted to knowing Rosenbaum was unarmed, uponit7771 Nov 2021 #45

I got a LOT of shit to do, but thank you for the dialogue. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #47

Same, you might have a point is Rosenbaum was armed but KR admitted he wasn't and firing at uponit7771 Nov 2021 #49

I don't know what to tell you. The law says precisely what it says. n/t Sympthsical Nov 2021 #43

Yep, "reasonable means to escape death" isn't shooting at unarmed people while running away uponit7771 Nov 2021 #46

under WI law, he can do that. Amishman Nov 2021 #33

That's your opinion, and is subject to the beyond a reasonable doubt standard. Calista241 Nov 2021 #35

that's in and image not an opinion. KRs weapon was NOT pointed towards the ground close to chest uponit7771 Nov 2021 #36

Even better ***AFTER KR POINTED HIS WEAPON AT ROSENBAUGH BEFORE THE CHASE*** uponit7771 Nov 2021 #23

I haven't watched much of the trial but I did watch the Tomconroy Nov 2021 #25

Especially in light of the absolute trainwreck of a rebuttal that the prosecution gave afterwards DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #27

Turned that off. It was too painful. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #28

The defense provoked him successfully Sympthsical Nov 2021 #31

I didn't watch the state's closing and I missed the start of the defense Tomconroy Nov 2021 #40

There were almost no objections during closing Sympthsical Nov 2021 #42

Yes mcar Nov 2021 #32

It sounds like the Prosecution had a good closing LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #57