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Celerity

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27. The very well run (politically) countries on the earth make up a very short list for me
Tue May 3, 2022, 09:57 AM
May 2022

ALL are going to be extremely hard to emigrate to (as an American) unless you are relatively young and have fairy specific skill set (as most all have openings only if you can work in a 'shortage defined' skilled placement)

Obviously ALL have large flaws, none are perfect, but all are overall better run politically from top to bottom (and many are far more diverse than the average American thinks, especially Sweden) IMHO than the US. All of these are also very expensive to live in for the most part.

In order of how well they are politically run:

New Zealand (Grey Lynn in Auckland is wonderful)

Switzerland (wide variety of choices, love Lausanne, love Zurich, big downside, CRAZY expensive)

Norway (Oslo is only city we would consider, as IF we wanted a smaller city, we would just stay in Sweden (in Sweden: Lund is great, Uppsala as well, superb small cities and both have ancient, world class unis) CRAZY expensive, but the wages are massive)

Denmark (Copenhagen FTW, Aarhus is wonderful (smaller) too)

Sweden (where I live) (would be number 3 except for our somewhat disastrous refugee policy from 2003-2015, which has allowed the far right Sweden Democrats a foothold in the Riksdag, our parliament, albeit with no true power as of yet, and hopefully that never changes)

Finland (the only nation on the list we would never consider moving to, as all the other Nordics offer a higher quality of life for us)

Canada (only place there we would consider moving to is Vancouver (CRAZY expensive see a trend? lolol), take that area away, and it's off the list)

The Netherlands (prefer Rotterdam to Amsterdam but both are superb)

Austria (Vienna is the only place we would live in there, it offers an astounding level in terms of quality of life)

Belgium (would be higher except they have such large issues with political dichotomous tensions between the Walloons & the Flemish, we love Antwerp over Brussels, but both are wonderful)

Australia (too RW at times to rate higher, but we adore Melbourne (we almost moved to St Kilda), and Sydney is great too, Perth is too isolated)

I think the Ukrainians are the example we should follow. Better to fight than give up JohnSJ May 2022 #1
... markie May 2022 #2
What does that mean? dwayneb May 2022 #8
It means you stay and you fight for what you believe in. You want to give up, then go JohnSJ May 2022 #11
Belize. Lochloosa May 2022 #3
Countries wanting to import Americans are about as eager bucolic_frolic May 2022 #4
I would add 'countries that most on here would be willing to move to'. Celerity May 2022 #24
From an earlier post.... Magoo48 May 2022 #5
+1 2naSalit May 2022 #7
1/3 to 1/2 don't even bother to vote dwayneb May 2022 #12
"Democrats or Progressives"? The Democratic Party is the progressive party. betsuni May 2022 #6
Semantics dwayneb May 2022 #9
Blame Democrats! betsuni May 2022 #10
Not following this question dwayneb May 2022 #18
Then say that. Too many Americans think both sides are the same and have no idea how betsuni May 2022 #21
I don't live in the U.S. and it's always something. There is no utopia. betsuni May 2022 #13
Yep my thoughts exactly dwayneb May 2022 #19
It's just as you say: "the trend toward Fascism is a worldwide phenomenon, it's not just the USA." Mister Ed May 2022 #14
Well if the whole world is going fascist... luv2fly May 2022 #15
You wouldn't even consider Lower Slobbovia? n/t DFW May 2022 #17
Ha ha good comment dwayneb May 2022 #20
The fact that abandoning the US is seen as an acceptable option says much about why we Atticus May 2022 #16
Spain PJMcK May 2022 #22
Kids and grandkids aren't going anywhere. We have had this conversation, so I'll stick around. dameatball May 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 2022 #25
If you have any sort of chronic health issue or issues that can be deemed to present a 'burden on Celerity May 2022 #26
The very well run (politically) countries on the earth make up a very short list for me Celerity May 2022 #27
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