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brooklynite

(94,501 posts) Sat Jun 18, 2022, 10:00 PM Jun 2022

A misinterpreted nugget addressed in the third Jan 6 hearing... [View all]

In the past, folks here have suggested that Pence didn't want to get into his car at the Capitol because he couldn't "trust" the Secret Service, the implication being that some SS might be working with Trump and the insurrectionists.

The testimony of Pence's aide Greg Jacob in the third Hearing puts this to rest. Pence's concern was that the driver of the car might take direction from his superiors rather than Pence himself and drive away for safety reasons, creating the image that he was scared and fleeing the mob.

If you're sticking with the first explanation, consider that those same Secret Service agents are now working in the Biden White House. Do you really imagine that suspect agents would be allowed to stay on the job?

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A misinterpreted nugget addressed in the third Jan 6 hearing... [View all] brooklynite Jun 2022 OP

I'm not saying I subscribe to scenario 1, but BIden DID replace members of original detail to ensure hlthe2b Jun 2022 #1

One guy from secret service HQ took leave to work for Trumps re-election. Yoyoyo77 Jun 2022 #11

Are they not trained to blend in? BSdetect Jun 2022 #2

Are Secret service not trained to identify threats that blend in? brooklynite Jun 2022 #3

I think Pence and His secret service recognized Trump MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #16

I do, absent evidence to the contrary. brooklynite Jun 2022 #24

You have absence to the contrary, Pence's own words. MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #27

Pence said he didn't trust the driver, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #4

...and Jacob explained why. brooklynite Jun 2022 #6

That doesn't make it the reason, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #7

So Jacob committed perjury? brooklynite Jun 2022 #9

Have you at all been watching the hearings? dpibel Jun 2022 #17

I have indeed... brooklynite Jun 2022 #21

Are you okay with the Loudermilk tours? Nothing there? MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #19

Which has nothing to do with the secret service brooklynite Jun 2022 #20

🤣 MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #22

You claimed there weren't traitors everywhere, MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #25

"Everywhere" means "everywhere". brooklynite Jun 2022 #26

Did you take tap dancing in grade school? 😉 MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #29

No, I just like to avoid overarching claims. How about you? brooklynite Jun 2022 #31

No, but I wanted to. 😄 Unfortunately, I have bid farewell MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #36

Jacob did not say specifically that Pence had "told him that." Nor did he say that was the only hlthe2b Jun 2022 #37

Are those same agents now working in the White House? Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #5

Names, please dpibel Jun 2022 #8

Early in Biden's first year there was an article or two agingdem Jun 2022 #10

💯 MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #15

Thank you for your well thought out and logical words. MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #18

Which of those secret service are working in the White House? MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #12

It's a puzzle, innit? dpibel Jun 2022 #13

Thank you so much for copying my post just in case. 🥰 MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #14

Reality sucks, doesn't it? brooklynite Jun 2022 #23

I'm not a keyboard warrior. I'm just a plain ol' Democratic MerryBlooms Jun 2022 #34

Whether they're working in the White House or not... brooklynite Jun 2022 #28

IMO Pence didn't get in the car because he wasn't sure... brush Jun 2022 #30

A perfectly reasonable assessment... brooklynite Jun 2022 #33

Thank you my friend, and well said FakeNoose Jun 2022 #32

Greg Jacob doesn't pretend to know what was on the minds of the Secret Service agents. Mister Ed Jun 2022 #35

It could be both Cosmocat Jun 2022 #38