Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Model35mech

(1,525 posts)
6. Unfortunately for originalists, the Founders thought the Constitution required revision
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:56 AM
Jun 2022

and they set up the process for doing that.

Recognizing the need for revision is in its fundamental essence anti-originialist.

The Founders, in majority decisions set this up. It's damned surprising to me that this is still something that is argued about

As the US has a standing military of Army, Air-Force/Space Force, Navy/Marine contingents, there is really no need for the militia spoken of in the second amendment. The National Guard really IS NOT a militia of citizens, enrolled, drilled, and available for local/regional combat against England, France, Spain or those nations colonies, or the Indigenous Peoples remaining. It -IS- a wing of the military activated and controlled by federal command and released, on occassion to do safety and emergency response in its home states.

OUR SIDE has done a really SHODDY JOB of arguing this point, and moreover, protecting the Courts from crazy ideas and conservative extremism.

Originalism is one of the greatest scams of the 21st (and 20th) century In It to Win It Jun 2022 #1
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #2
When the founders wrote the 2nd amendment they were talking about muskets. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #3
Unfortunately RobinA Jun 2022 #5
So "sex" has a certain meaning based on when it was written in 1964 (Bostock) per Thomas and Alito In It to Win It Jun 2022 #10
They quoted another case saying other wise. thatdemguy Jun 2022 #7
They pick and choose when it comes to originalism. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #11
Gunships existed in 1791, too Wednesdays Jun 2022 #9
Yes, there were privateers in the War of 1812. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #13
They did allow gun ships, most ships used during the Revolutionary war thatdemguy Jun 2022 #14
Sadly no, they were talking about "arms". Hangingon Jun 2022 #12
Originalism RobinA Jun 2022 #4
Unfortunately for originalists, the Founders thought the Constitution required revision Model35mech Jun 2022 #6
The Supreme Court ruled in District of Columbia V Heller that people had the right to bear arms. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #15
Yes they did. But they DID NOT RULE the Constitution couldn't be modified Model35mech Jun 2022 #16
Where have I ever written that the Constitution can't be changed? Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #17
You my not dear friend are an internet oppositionalist Model35mech Jun 2022 #18
I am sorry if you misinterpreted my post, I could have written it better. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #19
Voo doo wordsmiths Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #8
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The use of originalism to...»Reply #6