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14. Actually, at most Catholic parishes, even conservative ones, you'd be hard-pressed...
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jun 2022

...to find the stereotypical Irish family with 12 children anymore. The only place you'll find that kind of fecundity is in schismatic radtrad churches like the SSPXers and the EWTN "stars" who performatively LARP for the camera with their gigantic families. And those "stars" are almost always being subsidized by Catholic fundamentalist billionaires like Tom Monaghan.

The Church hierarchy is another matter, of course, but their problem is that they aren't the "princes of the Church" anymore: the most educated, thoughtful, etc. who deign to tell the rabble laity how to live. Many of the rabble are now far more accomplished and educated than the hierarchy, and the hierarchy knows it. That's why you see all the ridiculous "lifestyle LARPing" on EWTN, (Ir)-Relevant Radio, etc. They think that if they do enough performative LARPing, they can bring back the '50s--the 1350s.

Lol. Like for example the Catholic Church? Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #1
No, not like the Catholic Church. MineralMan Jun 2022 #3
Ok you just shifted the meaning of fundamentalist Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #4
No, I did not. MineralMan Jun 2022 #11
Yes you did too. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #17
It is the original fundamentalist denomination. MineralMan Jun 2022 #18
Oh so now you are back to your equivocation Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #19
Nope. I'm done with this little subterfuge of yours for now. MineralMan Jun 2022 #21
How is pointing out a logical fallacy 'subterfuge'? Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #22
Actually, at most Catholic parishes, even conservative ones, you'd be hard-pressed... keep_left Jun 2022 #14
Yes the people are not the institution. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #20
Some have. Here is the statement of the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church: Ocelot II Jun 2022 #2
Yes. Some have, but too few, too timidly, and too late. MineralMan Jun 2022 #8
I was reading an account that many congregations are divided by this, Hortensis Jun 2022 #12
I was at a Unitarian Church (normally very liberal) leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author wyn borkins Jun 2022 #5
Presbyterian Church USA did as well. phylny Jun 2022 #6
Fundamentalist Christians hate liberal Christians. milestogo Jun 2022 #7
Yup TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #9
I don't think they can influence fundamentalists. MineralMan Jun 2022 #10
Yep. They often use the literal term "apostate". I remember Mother Angelica of EWTN... keep_left Jun 2022 #15
Historians have a term for people who disagreed with many Nazi policies but... Girard442 Jun 2022 #13
Way, Way, Way, Way, WAAAAAY Past Time. msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #16
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