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135. Because Too Many Care about their Brand

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Sun Jul 10, 2022, 09:01 PM

Jul 2022

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than they do about Roe..

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Oh & BTW.. PJB did Do something about it 2 days ago!y..

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How the fuck did overturn of Roe become Biden's fault? [View all] boston bean Jul 2022 OP

It's less about saying it's his fault, and more about criticizing his response. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #1

I don't think you've really listened to him. boston bean Jul 2022 #2

Why not? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #3

Because if you had you wouldn't have written what you wrote. boston bean Jul 2022 #4

Lol. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #10

Ha! He is responsible for people voting in this case. boston bean Jul 2022 #16

. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #26

You think they aren't listening or don't know? boston bean Jul 2022 #29

. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #37

Listen and listen closely. boston bean Jul 2022 #39

This! mzmolly Jul 2022 #48

+++ JohnSJ Jul 2022 #70

THANK YOU, boston bean! calimary Jul 2022 #72

Amen and amen! paleotn Jul 2022 #109

You are a very patient person. Excellent posts. emulatorloo Jul 2022 #144

Well said, thank you Progressive dog Jul 2022 #145

I agree with what you are saying. mjvpi Jul 2022 #75

Yep, nt reACTIONary Jul 2022 #91

Apparently a lot of Democrats haven't listened to him then... brooklynite Jul 2022 #63

and 'a lot of democrats' are going to contribute stopdiggin Jul 2022 #84

If they don't get their heads out of their collective asses and.... paleotn Jul 2022 #107

Great response, WG! dixiechiken1 Jul 2022 #8

. boston bean Jul 2022 #9

I mean, what this comes down to is "make a plan and give it to me in 30 days." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #17

It is all going to be immediately challenged. And probably go to the scotus. boston bean Jul 2022 #22

WHAT f-ing plan?!!!! stopdiggin Jul 2022 #79

Democrats have warned about the importance of voting accordingly in the past several elections. mzmolly Jul 2022 #49

And your suggestion is what???? paleotn Jul 2022 #94

Letting Republicans off the hook is the same as being against reproductive freedom and choice gulliver Jul 2022 #13

I'm really stumped why offering suggestions is somehow helping Republicans. Shit's getting weird. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #19

Because criticizing a democrat for something a Republican is responsible for boston bean Jul 2022 #24

Biden's response -- both in tone and in content -- is something a Republican is responsible for? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #27

His tone? His content? boston bean Jul 2022 #30

Actually, regarding a presidency, .... jaxexpat Jul 2022 #148

Tone? FFS n/t emulatorloo Jul 2022 #146

Republicans are to blame JanLip Jul 2022 #57

Amen. WTF? This is what the GOP wants. Goddammit, just phucking VOTE! Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #98

You might need to put yourself in the mind-frame of a taker of reproductive freedom gulliver Jul 2022 #52

You're blaming. paleotn Jul 2022 #110

Yes, I agree. shrike3 Jul 2022 #23

+1000000000 HUAJIAO Jul 2022 #15

NPR LessAspin Jul 2022 #18

AlterNet LessAspin Jul 2022 #123

Great post. nt delisen Jul 2022 #51

Biden could try that TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #67

The basic bottom line is... reACTIONary Jul 2022 #89

Have you ever offered an unambiguously positive comment about Biden since he was elected? BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #99

Biden needs the numbers... duckworth969 Jul 2022 #105

I Agree With You Here The Magistrate Jul 2022 #112

Or We could ensure every republican politician is voted out of office for supporting these judges UCmeNdc Jul 2022 #149

Its not in any way, shape or form.. Biden's fault.. but..... Peacetrain Jul 2022 #5

It's crazy, isn't it? mcar Jul 2022 #6

I don't think that we are immune to trolling FalloutShelter Jul 2022 #14

The trolls have been crazy busy on FB and TikTok also. Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #43

THIS! 2Gingersnaps Jul 2022 #68

Good question mcar Jul 2022 #113

Could have, should have, would have.... Historic NY Jul 2022 #7

That bears repeating. sop Jul 2022 #100

Because Certain Members Of OUR Party Made It So Me. Jul 2022 #11

& PJB did Do Something about it yesterday! Cha Jul 2022 #136

TY, Had Not Seen THat Me. Jul 2022 #142

Actually it was on July &th.. 2 days Ago! Cha Jul 2022 #143

I'm willing to bet that the Venn diagram of people who didn't vote for HRC Aristus Jul 2022 #12

That's it... agingdem Jul 2022 #31

YES!!!! A 1,000 times YES!!' nt Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #46

Correct. sop Jul 2022 #102

+1000! n/t Silent3 Jul 2022 #35

+1000 DLCWIdem Jul 2022 #69

dead on. +100. -(nt)- stopdiggin Jul 2022 #81

You'd be right.. dead on. I've seen them Cha Jul 2022 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author empedocles Jul 2022 #20

It's also the fault of Dems who failed to codify Roe and nominated Hillary in 2016. shrike3 Jul 2022 #21

of course! I knew that. -(nt)- stopdiggin Jul 2022 #82

By mistaking attacks from hostiles on the left for constructive criticism from ourselves. Hortensis Jul 2022 #25

Spot on. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #38

back in the day in the hot tub, there were soooooooo many discussions about that. mopinko Jul 2022 #124

:) Hot tub political discussions. We've lost so much to the pandemic! Hortensis Jul 2022 #127

lol. i meant the mod forum here. mopinko Jul 2022 #128

:) I miss a lot, but at least now I get to blame it on age. Hortensis Jul 2022 #129

right there w ya. mopinko Jul 2022 #130

Well said, thank you. emulatorloo Jul 2022 #147

Amazing, isn't it? Cracklin Charlie Jul 2022 #28

+1 chowder66 Jul 2022 #77

Hmmmm empedocles Jul 2022 #32

The public on both sides seem to want their own autocrat! Pisces Jul 2022 #33

Yep. It's scary. I don't want a leftist dictator thanks, but no thanks. I want a democracy. boston bean Jul 2022 #36

People want a movie or reality TV show president, an emotional yelling activist. betsuni Jul 2022 #34

What can he do about it right now? Politicub Jul 2022 #40

Make your action to be supportive of democrats who want to codify Roe boston bean Jul 2022 #41

You do understand that my post is supportive of Biden, right? Politicub Jul 2022 #50

Your post was actually stopdiggin Jul 2022 #90

It's the myth of the bully pulpit, speeches have magical persuasive powers. betsuni Jul 2022 #106

Just what do you think the bully pulpit is exactly? betsuni Jul 2022 #47

I'll defer to Webster's online: Politicub Jul 2022 #53

So why do you think Biden making a few more speeches would change anything? betsuni Jul 2022 #55

Authority carries weight when it comes to delivering a message. Politicub Jul 2022 #58

Authority? The Establishment? I'd say there's just as much of a chance that betsuni Jul 2022 #60

Not speaking out sends a powerful message, too. Politicub Jul 2022 #64

Biden has been speaking out. betsuni Jul 2022 #93

Did you Miss This.. Pres Biden Speaking OUT? Cha Jul 2022 #138

OK.... paleotn Jul 2022 #103

It would be ignorant to act like a buffoon. Nothing I wrote suggests that he do anything like Politicub Jul 2022 #115

Ah, the bully pulpit mcar Jul 2022 #114

The magical bully pulpit which Biden refuses to use when it is right there and easy and magical! betsuni Jul 2022 #116

It's not magic. It's just a tool that's part of a toolbox of other tactics. Politicub Jul 2022 #118

I know that kind of person also mcar Jul 2022 #121

Thank you for saying that. It means alot. Politicub Jul 2022 #122

And of course there it is again, the personal insult. betsuni Jul 2022 #131

And hey, I voted 2 or 3 cycles and didn't get every little thing I wanted mcar Jul 2022 #119

President Obama was/is an incredible, inspirational speaker. Politicub Jul 2022 #117

President Obama is an incredible speaker mcar Jul 2022 #120

The same people who were too 'pure' to vote for Democrats, mzmolly Jul 2022 #42

And that's the plain, unvarnished truth. sop Jul 2022 #108

When it became obvious it would cost votes. live love laugh Jul 2022 #44

I wonder how many of those voted for Hillary in 2016. David Sirota and his compadres are still JohnSJ Jul 2022 #45

Our country stopped teaching BittyJenkins Jul 2022 #54

it's not his fault, move on now.... JuJuChen Jul 2022 #56

It's the people who didn't vote for Hillary in 2016 fault Kaleva Jul 2022 #59

Same goes for Nina Turner and the candidate she worked for. DFW Jul 2022 #86

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #87

Yes Kaleva Jul 2022 #88

Post removed Post removed Jul 2022 #61

Malarky. Just A Box Of Rain Jul 2022 #62

We had a chance to come together and stop this six years ago; instead, people acted like children LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #95

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #65

Because Fox says it is nowforever Jul 2022 #66

Because it can't be Obama's relayerbob Jul 2022 #71

Wait! Lots of people are blaming Obama because they think he betsuni Jul 2022 #83

I knocked on Democrat's doors, this is what I heard, PXR-5 Jul 2022 #73

It's like a zombie apocalypse movie where the survivors complain that the hero isn't doing enough Midnight Writer Jul 2022 #74

Too many Americans don't understand how the government works. madaboutharry Jul 2022 #76

We should start a heavy campaign rainy Jul 2022 #78

that's just RIGHT-WING PROPAGANDA Obvious85 Jul 2022 #80

You'd be very surprised..... paleotn Jul 2022 #104

K&R reACTIONary Jul 2022 #85

It's a quality magic trick being managed here Sympthsical Jul 2022 #92

Too many voters demand instant gratification. SouthBayDem Jul 2022 #96

Many just don't want to face up to the harsh fact it will takes years to repair the damage done by sop Jul 2022 #111

Totally agree, Joe bashing really pisses me off. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #97

where did you see this? barbtries Jul 2022 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #140

There are people on Twitter saying that Joe Biden is happy that Roe was overturned liberal_mama Jul 2022 #125

Some people Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #132

Sounds like Russian crap again and people can be idiots rockfordfile Jul 2022 #126

one thing I can think of Skittles Jul 2022 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2022 #134

Many progressives are Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #141

Because Too Many Care about their Brand Cha Jul 2022 #135

I totally agree llashram Jul 2022 #150