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Bucky

(53,986 posts)
58. It sucks, sometimes, being the party of principles.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

But then again, who wants to have the kind of principles that never inconvenience you?

I agree madokie Nov 2012 #1
++++++++++ The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #130
Uhhh Iggy Nov 2012 #2
Next door neighbors son is a died in the wool liberal justiceischeap Nov 2012 #4
I've witnessed similar "transitions." OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #7
I believe they use sophisticated methods of influence siligut Nov 2012 #154
LARGER Point Iggy Nov 2012 #15
Posts are easier to read if you let DU format them instead of putting in your own line breaks. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #23
It's partly display screens of different widths. mojowork_n Nov 2012 #83
Actually, you can see that my screen is wider than the DU width, so just let DU break the lines. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #88
So why was the sample you pasted much more broken up than what I saw on my display? n/t mojowork_n Nov 2012 #92
Probably your DU window is about half the width of one of the poster's lines. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #102
The problem is dbt94gt Nov 2012 #24
And many more intelligent voters Iggy Nov 2012 #25
And then you have the kind of stupid that NC Legislators wield - "banning" sea level rise! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #28
Correction: Ineeda Nov 2012 #35
yep heaven05 Nov 2012 #44
i AGREE Tippy Nov 2012 #51
Are you sure he is a "dyed in the wool liberal"? vaberella Nov 2012 #68
Yes, he's definitely a lib. He's actually disappointed in the President justiceischeap Nov 2012 #106
It just doesn't make sense to me though. vaberella Nov 2012 #126
That was the point of my post justiceischeap Nov 2012 #132
Still doesn't jive with Fox News who hates the fact Obama doesn't push more war. vaberella Nov 2012 #153
Does he not have the right to be disappointed in the President? ChillZilla Nov 2012 #139
Not once in my post say he didn't have a right to be disappointed in the President justiceischeap Nov 2012 #142
My nephew, a marine, was an Obama supporter than went on another tour, came back jillan Nov 2012 #86
AFN which airs garbage and loud-mouthed Tea Partiers SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #90
Like Ed Schultz and Rachael Maddow? Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #146
They rotate and when my husband was there they stayed on stupid SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #151
But that was cute of you to respond to my post that way SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #152
I aim to please... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #158
Oh NO! My son went to visit his Dad in Calif and do some work Cha Nov 2012 #128
It is frightening and stirring hatred amoung many thousands of uninformed... Walk away Nov 2012 #5
LOL!!!! PLEASE Give Me a Break Iggy Nov 2012 #19
Are you emailing your posts into DU? ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #59
He was not and is not a racist. However, he now believes that Obama.... Walk away Nov 2012 #111
OK... this still proves this guy is apparently a moron Iggy Nov 2012 #112
Do you have any idea how many morons vote? Walk away Nov 2012 #129
Yes, I do.. and Iggy Nov 2012 #136
We don't have anything in common so I'll just say... Walk away Nov 2012 #150
You're Correct, I'm Dealing with Fundamental Reality Iggy Nov 2012 #155
In Addition Iggy Nov 2012 #156
You obviously are not from a rural area Tumbulu Nov 2012 #122
Yes I am in a rural area, and Iggy Nov 2012 #141
Using public airwaves is not a right Tumbulu Nov 2012 #161
Sedition rbrnmw Nov 2012 #10
Wrong, Iggy Doctor_J Nov 2012 #13
I disagree with that SemperEadem Nov 2012 #21
EXACTLY Iggy Nov 2012 #32
Dozens, eh? Iggy Nov 2012 #115
I'm with you Doctor_J Tumbulu Nov 2012 #123
There is a first amendment that protects false noise. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #17
The First Amendment has exceptions. tabasco Nov 2012 #55
which one applies here? onenote Nov 2012 #95
It's Moot, Anyway Iggy Nov 2012 #113
Not for political discourse, even lies. Guess YOU forgot about THAT. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #133
Fox news has ruined the discourse in this country abelenkpe Nov 2012 #64
Correct x 1000!!!!!! Tumbulu Nov 2012 #124
Because Faux Snooze is a cable channel? FrodosPet Nov 2012 #178
What is your suggestion on how to deal with the mental pollution Tumbulu Nov 2012 #188
Knowledge! FrodosPet Nov 2012 #194
And how do you recommend Tumbulu Nov 2012 #198
How is ANY knowledge disseminated? FrodosPet Nov 2012 #201
Trying to do any of that in a rabid red violence incited rural area Tumbulu Nov 2012 #202
I was thinking libel/slander LeftInTX Nov 2012 #79
Not a First Amendment issue at all nichomachus Nov 2012 #91
bzzt. the first protects speech cali Nov 2012 #166
The right to say what one wants is one thing Tumbulu Nov 2012 #121
Posts like yours scare the bejeezus out of me. cali Nov 2012 #3
Cali speaks wisdom, kids. nt Codeine Nov 2012 #61
+1 (emphatically) FreeJoe Nov 2012 #148
Yup, they've told the lie so many times it has become "truth". JaneyVee Nov 2012 #6
Everything faux people say is BULLSHIT........ Buddaman Nov 2012 #8
Okay atreides1 Nov 2012 #9
Propaganda is hard to resist. IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #11
"Don't Complain About the Media... Iggy Nov 2012 #20
^^This^^ 99Forever Nov 2012 #38
yeah-- true NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #39
Opinion Outlets are worthless Iggy Nov 2012 #114
It will be up to us to take them down Doctor_J Nov 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Nov 2012 #14
Every time rbrnmw Nov 2012 #16
that's because some of us think that trashing the First Amendment is kind of kooky. onenote Nov 2012 #94
"...you hear The First Amendment blah blah blah and your looked at like some kook" sl8 Nov 2012 #101
Maybe because making up laws that don't exist IS being a kook. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #135
^ + 1,000 n/t upi402 Nov 2012 #33
Well, if this election will be such a tremendous landslide for Obama, why is Fox a problem? ChillZilla Nov 2012 #138
That was a disgraceful period of our early history. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #18
+1 nt Codeine Nov 2012 #63
The Republican Congressman that were at the meeting oldbanjo Nov 2012 #22
Yes they should rbrnmw Nov 2012 #27
what are you talking about? cali Nov 2012 #34
re rbrnmw Nov 2012 #43
do you ever stop to think before you post this kind of stuff? cali Nov 2012 #46
I have canvassing to do now rbrnmw Nov 2012 #52
yes heaven05 Nov 2012 #42
you'll get no argument from me 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #26
Like Eugene Debs was? Like the Wooblies were? Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #29
Sedition, Traitor <- accusations right-wingers love to use against the left upi402 Nov 2012 #31
Fuck freedom right? bowens43 Nov 2012 #30
Airing false, scandalous, and malicious claims against the President of the United States upi402 Nov 2012 #36
and that never happened with shrub, right? uh, no. wrong. cali Nov 2012 #66
I think the newer revelations about the CIA will make people re-evaulate what went on NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #37
this heaven05 Nov 2012 #40
Is this a contest to see how short-sighted we can be? JoeyT Nov 2012 #41
ding, ding, ding. cali Nov 2012 #48
I bet they will use this for an impeachment treestar Nov 2012 #45
37 recs for grossly un-American gibberish cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #47
isn't that sweet? cali Nov 2012 #49
These empowerment fantasies are sad cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #56
It is sick shit that most of DU seems to lap up. cali Nov 2012 #62
And I just added 1 more. 44 now! nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #53
I'm not sure why you are proud of endorsing the application of a law that expired 200 years ago onenote Nov 2012 #96
Correct... and Iggy Nov 2012 #117
any media who knowingly lies should have some form of legal repercussions newspeak Nov 2012 #50
And you're prepared to have the same principles applied when Republicans are in power? brooklynite Nov 2012 #54
It sucks, sometimes, being the party of principles. Bucky Nov 2012 #58
"There was no Holocaust or extermination of Jews by Nazis"..... is that an interpretation? KittyWampus Nov 2012 #65
Plus they're owned by an Alien!! Let's charge 'em with that too!!1! Bucky Nov 2012 #57
Good idea. He became a US citizen for the explicit purpose of selling propaganda here... nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #60
They absolutely should. Now, who will do it????? nt valerief Nov 2012 #67
I so agree! Your FCC is quick to monitor titties arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #69
The FCC has no direct jurisdiction over Fox News slackmaster Nov 2012 #144
Good god no. fishwax Nov 2012 #70
Instead, designate Faux as "entertainment" as in National Enquirer, then sue them for libel appacom Nov 2012 #71
who did they libel? onenote Nov 2012 #97
You apparently are unaware that the law you cite was repealed over 90 years ago. onenote Nov 2012 #72
uhmmm... whttevrr Nov 2012 #77
Thank you. I stand corrected. The OP is based on a law that expired 211 years ago. onenote Nov 2012 #87
Authoritarians are always frustrated by the First Amendment tritsofme Nov 2012 #73
RW talk radio is the bigger problem, with paid callers and no pressure or monitoring from the left certainot Nov 2012 #74
Comedy Gold cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #75
lol. great response. cali Nov 2012 #78
No. Marrah_G Nov 2012 #76
I think this is the wrong approach; it's the wrong diagnosis. reusrename Nov 2012 #80
Indeed solara Nov 2012 #81
WOW. Joseph Goebbels would have nodded approvingly at this OP. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #82
indeed. fucking lunacy to endorse this kind of shit. cali Nov 2012 #84
Thank you, another voice of reason ChillZilla Nov 2012 #140
Too bad the law in the U.S. says they can lie all they want to just1voice Nov 2012 #85
We should have used that long ago, and I think I'll C/P SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #89
as pointed out, you would have had to use it a long time ago onenote Nov 2012 #93
It's a shame that we can't figure out a way tavernier Nov 2012 #98
You didn't include the "... obvious violation of the First Amendment ..." description of the Act. sl8 Nov 2012 #99
you're damned right they should be. spanone Nov 2012 #100
Fox should have never given a free pass felix_numinous Nov 2012 #103
Balderdash! RomneyLies Nov 2012 #104
Jerry, just remember. It's not a lie... if you believe it... Fla_Democrat Nov 2012 #105
Ist amendment BainsBane Nov 2012 #107
What license with the FCC? FrodosPet Nov 2012 #180
No.. they shouldn't.. SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #108
Cannot believe this has 90 recs. Unconstitutional, and wrong. Thank god it will never happen. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #109
Expect to see Noam Chomsky and Christ Hedges behind bars if they start charging people with that Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #110
I wonder who a Bush (or, godforbid, Romney) administration would go after w/ a law like that fishwax Nov 2012 #116
Did you even read your link? former9thward Nov 2012 #118
OK this was a stupid OP rbrnmw Nov 2012 #119
How about adapting a version of the Canadian. law mahina Nov 2012 #120
Sounds like a good start Tumbulu Nov 2012 #125
Canada does not have a First Amendment. former9thward Nov 2012 #160
Why is it important for you to use public airwaves to spread lies and hate? Tumbulu Nov 2012 #162
Maybe you know what your post is about but I sure don't. former9thward Nov 2012 #167
OK, I will try again Tumbulu Nov 2012 #169
Just curious: Do you have any idea how despicable your post is cali Nov 2012 #168
Despicable? Please do explain Tumbulu Nov 2012 #170
You are putting words in the mouth of a poster that he never uttered cali Nov 2012 #185
And what about Limbaugh- why am I picked on but not him? Despicable????? Tumbulu Nov 2012 #190
You're off the rails, honey. Of course the 1st protects Limbaugh and other repulsive cali Nov 2012 #193
Speak for yourself, honey Tumbulu Nov 2012 #199
I know, rbrnmw, we laugh..as in "Chaos On Bullshit Mountain".. Cha Nov 2012 #127
What about people who claim the government is hiding little green men at Area 51? davidn3600 Nov 2012 #131
Another OP post of UTTER lack of knowledge of the LAW on the 1st Amendment. A GOOGLE SEARCH = WinkyDink Nov 2012 #134
This! FrodosPet Nov 2012 #181
No foreign interest should ever have say in our media. aandegoons Nov 2012 #137
What nonsensical stupidity, MadHound Nov 2012 #143
4 years ago + Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #145
How would you know that? Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #206
Common sense... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #207
I think you're right and that Greybnk48 Nov 2012 #147
Any person who would trash the First Amendment over some cable chatter box Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #149
Sedition? Brewinblue Nov 2012 #157
Really. This thread is proof that the aggregate intelligence here at DU cali Nov 2012 #165
Appellate Court Rules Fox News Can Legally Lie. DaniDubois Nov 2012 #159
+1 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #163
This thread is worthy of Freeperville. The rank stupidity is breathtaking. cali Nov 2012 #164
Calling people stupid really does not do much for your position Tumbulu Nov 2012 #171
For starters, Fox News is not broadcast over the public airwaves onenote Nov 2012 #172
Well all the Fox affiliates out here in Calif Tumbulu Nov 2012 #173
Fox News is a cable network. Fox broadcast stations onenote Nov 2012 #174
Well I for one feel that the 24/7 attack Tumbulu Nov 2012 #175
I'm pretty certain that some of the strongest defenders of the First Amendment on DU onenote Nov 2012 #176
I repeat the first amendment does not give one the right Tumbulu Nov 2012 #177
try proving that Fox is inciting violence in a court of law. cali Nov 2012 #183
So, is it your position that Fox and Limbaugh Tumbulu Nov 2012 #187
No. And neither are people who disgustingly cali Nov 2012 #191
SHould HBO be taken off the air? FrodosPet Nov 2012 #196
Smart people can be stupid cali Nov 2012 #182
Public airwaves are owned by all of us. Tumbulu Nov 2012 #189
Fox doesn't use the public airways. and the way to deal cali Nov 2012 #192
So if 50% plus 1 of the public says Tumbulu cannot have electricity FrodosPet Nov 2012 #195
If I was using public airwaves to spew hate Tumbulu Nov 2012 #197
So let's narrow this down FrodosPet Nov 2012 #200
OK, currently aren't all swear words bleaped out? Tumbulu Nov 2012 #204
There should be laws to protect people from the BS that Fox calls news fadedrose Nov 2012 #179
There aren't. There won't be and there fucking well shouldn't be cali Nov 2012 #184
under British common law of the 18th Century, the board could have and would have onenote Nov 2012 #186
I am with you Tumbulu Nov 2012 #203
there aren't and I hope there never are. holy cow. eom yawnmaster Nov 2012 #205
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