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In reply to the discussion: Trumps lawyers are telling us they have no defense in the secret document investigation. [View all]uponit7771
(92,154 posts)64. We agree that NARA doesn't have authority to designated records but that's not ...
... material here seeing the docs TFG has already ***BEEN*** marked with government markings indicating that they belong to the gov.
That's a fact we both agree with; majority of docs TFG has already have been indicated in someway to be US government property.
You're claiming the Clinton tapes weren't marked at all with anything ... I don't read that but lets say they weren't.
That's even worse case for TFG's case because the documents he had ***WHERE*** marked as belonging to the USG.
NARA does not have the authority to designate materials as Presidential records, NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.
We agree with the bolded text but its not material to the point that the the docs TFG has already been indicated to be government property.
This case if ruled in TFGs favor would open up a shit can of worms of claims of who's who's information when someone leaves a place of employment for instance.
I right a sticky note to buy ribs on the way home in my work place doesn't mean its work place product ... that's already been decided.
In TFGs case I just can't claim something with my employers name at the top of it as mine either when there's explicit indicators they're not.
Jackson's ruling is clear; those Clinton tapes MAGA wanted weren't government product and that was clear of that on the face of the case.
The docs TFG is trying to keep isn't **HIS** personal belongings and that is clear on the face of this case too.
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Trumps lawyers are telling us they have no defense in the secret document investigation. [View all]
fightforfreedom
Sep 2022
OP
There is no honor in endangering the National Security of the US of A.
Justice matters.
Sep 2022
#29
Even Dershowitz conceded they had probable cause for the warrant and enough to indict
Jarqui
Sep 2022
#9
That's an argument that hasn't been challenged and upheld in court in similar circumstances
FBaggins
Sep 2022
#23
re: "prosecution's job to prove that they had not been. And, legally, they have a point."
thesquanderer
Sep 2022
#46
The PRA isn't written so ambiguous as to make any document TFG can think of a "personal record" ...
uponit7771
Sep 2022
#24
Under PRA (link) "Personal records" are defined and not willy nilly anything a president claims.
uponit7771
Sep 2022
#38
Jackson's ruling in regards to Clinton tapes in "sock drawer" case Clinton's tapes were CLEARLY ...
uponit7771
Sep 2022
#48
We agree that NARA doesn't have authority to designated records but that's not ...
uponit7771
Sep 2022
#64
Why does everyone keep forgetting Donald Trump has an army of judges on his side?
Heather MC
Sep 2022
#13
America has had 3 people @ the level of espionage that Trump might have been at and they were:
Botany
Sep 2022
#27
"All Trump and his lawyers can do is delay, create chaos in the justice system."
progressoid
Sep 2022
#34
I have had the thought that Cannon doesn't believe what she says, but rather...
thesquanderer
Sep 2022
#50
re: "irrelevant when it comes to the possible charges listed in the warrant. It is not a defense"
thesquanderer
Sep 2022
#49
You'd almost think they're just wanting to delay, delay, and milk the rubes.
Beartracks
Sep 2022
#73