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mnhtnbb

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26. There are two extremely popular continuing care retirement communities
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 12:02 PM
Oct 2022

in Chapel Hill, NC. One has been around for 40 years--was a leader in the field--and has lengthy wait lists. I just checked it, and the average wait for a studio is 3 years; for a 1 bedroom apartment the wait is 6-20 years (average 13); and anything else (including the cottages) the wait is 11-17.5 years (average 13). There's a declining scale to return the entrance fee; after 50 months, it's zero return and the entrance fees range from $103,000 to $482,000. Then there are monthly fees on top of that. I couldn't find them on their website, but the other comparable place in town has a minimum $3000. single monthly fee, with an additional requirement of minimum dining on top of that ($250/mo).

The other one has more of an ownership option for your apartment or villa, with a guaranteed return of your entry fee, less a 5% marketing fee, updating/remodeling expenses, and some possible appreciation. Their minimum entry fee (buy in) is $133,600 and goes all the way up to $798,500 for a 2 bedroom 2210 sq ft villa with a garage. The single monthly fee, on top of the entry fee, is $3038. mo for a single all the way to $3995. for the most expensive villa. Add a second person and the monthly fee goes up about $1000. per month, regardless of the category of home.

These two places are the Cadillacs around here. There are lots of other independent or assisted living retirement communities that don't offer continuing care. It's a puzzle figuring them out, especially not knowing if you'll be physically challenged as you age, or have memory issues.

My 90 year old uncle moved to an assisted living facility in Pasadena about 12 years ago after my aunt died. He started out with a $4500/mo monthly fee, but when he started having falls, the facility required him to have an aide with him from 7 am to 7 pm daily. Very quickly his monthly fees went up to about $11,000./mo. My cousin ended up moving him out to live with him in Seattle. It was a real shame, because my uncle no longer had the supportive community of younger friends to come visit him, friends he'd had for many years.

My own plan--at 71--is to go feet first out of my little single level house I bought about 18 months ago. It's in a new development. My oldest son lives 10 minutes away and my youngest son lives 20 minutes away. Our family house burned down in 2007, and with all the subsequent moves/rebuilding/selling the rebuilt family house in 2018, I actually had to buy some furniture for this new house. So cleaning this place out when I go should be fairly easy for my sons. If they sell the house after I die, they will divide the equity (and I took out a 2.3% 15 year mortgage when I bought the house after putting 50% down, which either one of them is allowed to assume, should they wish to not sell), which means I won't have thrown $100's of thousands of dollars away on entry fees and monthly costs.

I'm happy where I am now, and basically healthy. I like living alone and I moved from a high rise apartment--which I loved--to a house because of COVID. I can't see giving this up to move to a retirement community. Most of my neighbors are 50ish or older, and it's a very sociable community because we all moved in right about the same time. If I wanted to interact more, I could, right where I am.

The two communities I mentioned are Carol Woods https://www.carolwoods.org/
and Carolina Meadows https://carolinameadows.org/about/

Moving in to independent or assisted living. [View all] PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 OP
I'm in the same boat Basic LA Oct 2022 #1
Good for you. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #2
Very much on point. niyad Oct 2022 #3
That's wonderful. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #4
I just looked at www.newmexico.org and found the listing ffor the niyad Oct 2022 #6
Ahhh, yes. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #12
St Lawrence County here! Karma13612 Oct 2022 #21
Good luck on all your endeavors & good advice for the rest of us MagickMuffin Oct 2022 #5
Actually, one of the things I did for them PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #9
The studios sound great! Karma13612 Oct 2022 #22
Unfortunately, if your only income is SS, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #29
Nope, house doesn't crack Karma13612 Oct 2022 #31
I'm with you. Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #7
Is it Sweden that has that custom where people clear out their junk at a certain age Demovictory9 Oct 2022 #8
Yes, it's Sweden. A wonderful thing. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #10
Very important post! LittleGirl Oct 2022 #11
Thank you for sharing. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #13
Updating a will is just as important too LittleGirl Oct 2022 #16
We have the same issue with my wife's mother DFW Oct 2022 #14
I hear stories like this, your elderly mother and her situation, all too often. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #15
For me, not working would be my downfall DFW Oct 2022 #19
Making Music is not a pass time for me. msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #23
I take it seriously as well, don't get me wrong DFW Oct 2022 #24
I know exactly what you mean... msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #27
DFW, you really should consider slowing down LittleGirl Oct 2022 #17
I consider it, but so far, choose not to. DFW Oct 2022 #18
My father moved into a CCRC* 10 years ago, best move ever sir pball Oct 2022 #20
Excellent advice. n/t LuckyCharms Oct 2022 #25
There are two extremely popular continuing care retirement communities mnhtnbb Oct 2022 #26
Yeah a continuing care retirement community would be nice. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #30
Very valuable advice and PSA HipChick Oct 2022 #28
Most people aren't as practical or realistic as you and I. llmart Oct 2022 #32
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