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Chainfire

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20. Of course, the events that led to the Civil War were simple....
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 11:38 AM
Nov 2022

Bad guys vs good guys. Monsters vs saints....Black and white, cut and dried.

Although I am descended a from a family that were plantation owners and slave holders, I certainly realize how evil the institution was and I don't support the Confederacy any more than I support the Nazis or the other MAGAS. You get to choose your politics but you don't get to choose your ancestors.

That said, the young men who served the Confederacy as cannon fodder went to war for the same reasons all young men, everywhere, throughout history, go to wars. They were told, by their elders, that it was the patriotic thing to do and if they didn't they were cowards. A parallel may be our war in Viet Nam. Most progressives damn that war, rightfully, but don't damn the soldiers.

Southern soldiers were victims, not boogeymen. Here is the photo of a Southern soldier, a distant relative that died "defending his country" He was a kid, from the "have not" side of the family, he was not a rich landowner, not a slave holder, just a kid, when he was decapitated by a cannon ball. Damn slavery, damn the generals, damn the politicians, and damn the slave owners, but the soldiers were just soldiers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:FilePath/Private_Edwin_Francis_Jemison.jpg

Whole lot of bullshit coming...that needs to be detected and avoided...Social media...detect and avoid! Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #1
Tik Tok is the same, only worse, because all info goes to a server in China, so they can interject AZLD4Candidate Nov 2022 #2
Hallelujah mate! Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #5
'TikTok moves U.S. user data to Oracle servers' speak easy Nov 2022 #14
You realize Democratic Underground **is** social media as well? irisblue Nov 2022 #12
Think most folks know what I mean mate! Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #32
No I am not clear what you meant. Please explain your meaning. I'm listening irisblue Nov 2022 #33
He's right Historic NY Nov 2022 #3
And both the rich slave owners and the poor cannon foder believed "Christian" leaders starting ... Botany Nov 2022 #4
As was the First World War and a a few others before and since...also owners of big media, so Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #7
And to this day I think JFK was killed because by 1963 he had come to the conclusion that ... Botany Nov 2022 #10
I also think he was murdered because of white supremacy. Lonestarblue Nov 2022 #18
...ever notice how political.. thomski64 Nov 2022 #19
I definitely think Civil Rights had a Major, if not The Major cause of... electric_blue68 Nov 2022 #35
Nicely Done, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2022 #6
Cannibals - wow! jmbar2 Nov 2022 #8
No, slavery is about owning people as property Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #17
Absolutely. Straw Man Nov 2022 #31
Carlin was really good! burrowowl Nov 2022 #9
Teachers are being muzzled by parents and school boards for this very reason. lindysalsagal Nov 2022 #11
👆👆👆👆 Rebl2 Nov 2022 #13
I'm going to take Carlin's advice and question KS Toronado Nov 2022 #15
Yes, and during the Cold War they told us the Russians were coming to take our food bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #16
Of course, the events that led to the Civil War were simple.... Chainfire Nov 2022 #20
Yes, and there was also conscription during that war. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #26
The conscription in the North was interesting, Chainfire Nov 2022 #27
Spot on. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #28
Er... Hitler was waging an Authoritarian, Anti-Semetic, Anti other vunerable populations... electric_blue68 Nov 2022 #34
My point, of mentioning Dresden, was that war is evil, period. Chainfire Nov 2022 #36
1+ keithbvadu2 Nov 2022 #21
Yeah, it's true that the civil war was about slavery Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #22
excellent points all CatWoman Nov 2022 #23
The problem with that Carlin snippet is that the wingnuts can warp it to support them Tarc Nov 2022 #24
The primary reason for the secession of South Carolina was grantcart Nov 2022 #25
...and the same can be said of just about every war. snot Nov 2022 #29
The Lost Cause was one of the most successful disinformation campaigns in our Poiuyt Nov 2022 #30
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