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In reply to the discussion: Fitzmas avoidance does not require multiple wet blanket cannons [View all]Bernardo de La Paz
(48,939 posts)9. Sure. Emphasis on "seems". But I think it is other than "shielding from Fox and hysterics"
I say time will tell, but a hypothesis (and that is all that Pierce and you and I have -- hypotheses) is that considering what is left after the passage of time is important to Garland. And I'm not referring to reputation.
I think that Garland and Biden are such honorable persons that they are taking the time to do the right thing and taking the slings and arrows while being patient. I think they may have (my hypothesis) the long view that I try to find and retain.
Now, and before, a powerful case can be made for moving indictments forward at breakneck speed, given that democracy remains in peril, even if Pelosi's leadership has reduced that level of peril on multiple occasions.
But while not quite being burn the village to save it there would leave too much smoke in the air.
I think the slow but RELENTLESS approach is what is needed. Tightening the vise crushing the authoritarians without letup and no escape.
Democracy is best defended by very deliberate and carefully considered systems, techniques and approaches, like the US Constitution was and is. It has lasted because the writers and signers spent a lot of time and effort leading up to and during the process. They were very deliberate about what they did. They "deliberated" a lot, literally. They did not write it before the Declaration or even a year or two after. And yes there were an attempt or two at prior documents.
The counter to the case for haste in indictments is that success rates count.
The more convictions there are the better. And the greater the ratio of convictions to indictments the better. Ultimately indictments don't matter once they begin to be processed. It's the outcome that is the true measure.
Democracy will endure longer the stronger it is built and that includes the hard work of maintaining it by convicting plotters, insurrectionists, corrupt politicians, careless idiots, and fascists alike.
The Special Counsel and especially THIS Special Counsel insulate the process to a great degree from the falsification by Republicans about the motives, facts, and law. It is further evidence that Biden and Garland want to rivet shut an airtight case so that the corrosive effects of the tRump era and the runup to it are fully reversed and thereby prevented for a very long time.
When future civics and history teachers explain to classes, it will be crystal clear if all the facts and law have been tested multiple times in court and found true and correct, without smoke in the air.
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Fitzmas avoidance does not require multiple wet blanket cannons [View all]
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
OP
Pierce deserves respect, but I think Garland was required to appoint a Special Counsel.
Hermit-The-Prog
Nov 2022
#8
It can be inferred by the DOJ policy that requires the appointment of an SC in such circumsances.
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#37
The "circumstances" have changed due to announcements by TBL and indications
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#52
Garland undoubtedly has determined, but would not say if he has. He has not said tRump is cleared
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#53
Sure. Emphasis on "seems". But I think it is other than "shielding from Fox and hysterics"
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#9
Barr barred Mueller from indicting tRump then Congress (Republicans) didn't do their job
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#22
Obviously you and I see very different things. Appearing before the Jan 6 committee
Autumn
Nov 2022
#59
Yes, there is much more than the J6 committee; J6 committee has nothing to do with this thread
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#64
Bill Barr was too smart to do anything illegal. Remember, he resigned BEFORE Jan 6
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#65
Nothing has changed about that SOB since IC. He got away with his shit then and it looks to me
Autumn
Nov 2022
#66
The leading hypothesis is that it contains info about ongoing investigations
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#48
Yes. Hence my reasoning that it is not about evading shrieks of 'partisan witch-hunt'. . . .nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#46
We have no other option but waiting. Garland is immune to social media / talking head noise
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#50
keep in mind he is likely fighting a rear guard battle against the left behind.
mopinko
Nov 2022
#12
Whatever Garland is doing to keep a clean, tight, house is working. We hear nothing
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#15
There is a small contingent of those who partake in this kind of behavior here:
demmiblue
Nov 2022
#18
What are you referring to? There is no issue of control in this thread. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#23
Sure. I'm not responsible for other threads, nor do I have any "control". . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#31
After the Robert Mueller experience, I do not have faith that our justice system will ever prosecute
Yavin4
Nov 2022
#21
That is not what prompted this thread. Fitzmas was a lack of indictment. Speakership is different.nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#28
I'm not mad. Wasn't the OP clear enough for you that I was advising an even keel?
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#30
Slapping hands for not believing in a ridiculous cloud castle isn't an even keel
Sympthsical
Nov 2022
#38
This thread is not about that thread. I don't know why I have to repeat that. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#42
You made me laugh -- I guess I deserved that, whatever it was. Thank you very much....
Hekate
Nov 2022
#39
Thanks. Positivists live longer and (or because) they enjoy life more
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#61
From the "gift" of indictments that prosecutor Fitzgerald was highly anticipated to deliver
Bernardo de La Paz
Nov 2022
#68