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ShazzieB

(16,281 posts)
28. I believe there are people who think the Holocaust didn't really happen.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:31 PM
Dec 2022

At least not on the scale it actually did. A person doesn't have to believe none of it is true to be a Holocaust denier. Denying the true extent of it, the vast numbers of people affected, etc. are also forms of Holocaust denial.

Some of these people put a ludicrous amount of work into trying to "disprove" what history tells us, twisting themselves into ridiculous logic pretzels in the process. I've read enough about those people and their activities to be convinced that at least some of them are deadly serious about it.

Have you seen the movie "Denial," about how noted Holocaust scholar Deborah Lipstadt was sued by a British Holocaust denier? I highly recommend it, as well as History on Trial, her book about the case that the film is based on. I don't think there's any question David Irving, the denier who unsuccessfully sued her, was (and still is) absolutely convinced that his view was the "historically " correct one.

Here's a video where Lipstadt talks about what she calls "hardcore" vs. "softcore" Holocaust denial.



A partial transcript of the video (and other info on Holocaust denial), is available here: https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion/explaining-holocaust-denial

EDITED TO ADD: Wikipedia also has a very informative article on the subject of Holocaust denial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial
Tiedrich re: The Holocaust [View all] kpete Dec 2022 OP
My parents were Holocaust survivors..Auschwitz/Bergen Belsen agingdem Dec 2022 #1
And many American Jews are wondering today if your father had it right. 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #2
They don't give a damn as long as it never happened to them-mostly Republican Stargazer99 Dec 2022 #3
When I was a little girl agingdem Dec 2022 #5
I am so sorry over what your parents endured. wnylib Dec 2022 #15
my mom did the same thing with me. I was 8 yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #38
Oh my god agingdem... cilla4progress Dec 2022 #4
"The Holocaust really happened" onecaliberal Dec 2022 #7
My ex-MIL was a survivor of Aushwitz as well. barbtries Dec 2022 #13
Your last paragraph says it all, my friend. calimary Dec 2022 #29
exactly. barbtries Dec 2022 #30
... Lucinda Dec 2022 #6
It happened , the only ones who don't think are lying to us. republianmushroom Dec 2022 #8
Agree. Rewording: The only ones who say they don't think so - know they are lying. erronis Dec 2022 #24
I believe there are people who think the Holocaust didn't really happen. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #28
Just how desperate to be accepted into a club of morons does one have to be? jaxexpat Dec 2022 #9
You could even offer in person refunds ... Whiskeytide Dec 2022 #10
Exactly, I'll sign anything. My word is my bond. You can bank on it. Hell, it's already in the bank. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #14
There was a time in my life . . .. Richard D Dec 2022 #11
My parents, particularly my mother, never recovered... agingdem Dec 2022 #22
So poignant. Richard D Dec 2022 #27
When I was in 1st grade in Philadelphia I lived around the corner from a couple who had survived the Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #12
The holocaust happened - my father-in-law helped to liberate Dachau Red Pest Dec 2022 #16
My stepfather got to clean up the camps when the US arrived. plimsoll Dec 2022 #17
Every movie, film and newsreels with footage should be on regarding the Holocaust should be flying_wahini Dec 2022 #18
There is nothing new about holocaust denial. Check out the film "Denial"... TygrBright Dec 2022 #19
Yes! ShazzieB Dec 2022 #31
Never makes any sense to me why they deny it because in the next The_Casual_Observer Dec 2022 #20
Exactly!!! Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #32
TY & JT 🤦‍♂️💕 Cha Dec 2022 #21
From 7 to 17 I lived in a 2/3rds Jewish neighborhood a mix of reformed, conservative, secular... electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #23
Eisenhower insisted that the Holocaust camps be thoroughly documented because he knew there would be keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #25
The Germans made their own films BonnieJW Dec 2022 #33
The impulse some people have soldierant Dec 2022 #39
My grandfather was in the Normandy Invasion. Like the first wave. Initech Dec 2022 #26
In the mid-60s, I may not have yet been ten years old majdrfrtim Dec 2022 #34
K&R Blue Owl Dec 2022 #35
We had to watch films about the horror of the camps, when I was in high school. love_katz Dec 2022 #36
I remember Rebl2 Dec 2022 #37
My dad fought in Germany lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #40
I remember the film we saw in my grade school class LittleGirl Dec 2022 #41
My grandmother on my father's side Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #42
One of my elementary school teachers had the tattoos on her arm. Tender hopper Dec 2022 #43
My father passed and I miss him. The Jungle 1 Dec 2022 #44
Yiddish Word of the Day: The Holocaust Behind the Aegis Dec 2022 #45
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