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nightwing1240

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16. A great man once said

Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:25 AM

Dec 2022

"Violence begets violence; hate begets hate; and toughness begets a greater toughness. It is all a descending spiral, and the end is destruction — for everybody. Along the way of life, someone must have enough sense and morality to cut off the chain of hate." -Martin Luther King Jr.

I agreed then and still do. If I would have to kill to live, I would rather die than living with the knowledge I took someones life. Now in the situation of protecting family and loved ones, I would make an exception but even then I would not fire upon unless fired at. And I have never owned a gun so a bit of a moot point for me.

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I do not know how long this post will last. It is intended not to advocate violence, but to [View all] Atticus Dec 2022 OP

For the use of force I believe in the "clear and present danger" requirement Walleye Dec 2022 #1

i agree... samnsara Dec 2022 #2

Every precaution should be taken to defend yourself... kentuck Dec 2022 #3

Starting with a "clear understanding" of the "self" that one is defending sanatanadharma Dec 2022 #8

I read Alan Watts in the late 60's including "The Book on the Taboo Against panader0 Dec 2022 #13

Check out the other thread regarding the paradox of intolerance. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #4

Thank you. nt Atticus Dec 2022 #11

Thanks for the meme & article link KS Toronado Dec 2022 #34

Tolerance extends to all actions that do not hurt others or the community Mysterian Dec 2022 #5

If we had a fully functioning judicial/law enforcement system, you wouldn't have to pose that... Probatim Dec 2022 #6

+1 CrispyQ Dec 2022 #7

+1, could you imagine if Muslims were acting like MAGA acts right now? There would be mass ... uponit7771 Dec 2022 #14

The same would have been true if Muslims/POC raided the Capitol on 1/6. Probatim Dec 2022 #17

I think your post is the answer. We have the laws that should keep intolerance in check, but Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #21

+1 n/t area51 Dec 2022 #25

I had a good neighborhood in the countryside. Tetrachloride Dec 2022 #9

Atticus, I'm hoping the thread stays up, too, because it's something I've wondered a lot about BComplex Dec 2022 #10

K&R, isn't it against the law to threaten someone with violence? Thx in advance uponit7771 Dec 2022 #12

The Germans apparently know how to deal with it. Firestorm49 Dec 2022 #15

A great man once said nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #16

Arjuna was faced with the problem of his family and loved ones dying sanatanadharma Dec 2022 #19

it certainly is not nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #35

If I would have to kill to live, I would rather die than living with the knowledge I took someones Atticus Dec 2022 #22

Forget ones self for a moment. Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #28

Often also natural to save one's child even at cost of one's own life lostnfound Dec 2022 #29

I am better than no one nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #36

Thank you, thank you, thank you arlyellowdog Dec 2022 #26

"Violence could not triumph" nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #37

too generalized GenXer47 Dec 2022 #18

When they go low, we go high IronLionZion Dec 2022 #20

I believe the answer to intolerance is not violence unless it is truly a last resort. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #23

"must we wait until those who admit their intent to destroy us to "actually" open fire before our... LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #24

exactly, I agree llashram Dec 2022 #27

To be in the right, we must wait until a threat is imminent before resorting to violence. hadEnuf Dec 2022 #30

I'm a woman and I've spent most of my life living alone Warpy Dec 2022 #31

Think Kyle Rittenhouse coming down the street... rubbersole Dec 2022 #32

not many will remember 2016 Slammer Dec 2022 #33

Krishna's answer to Arjuna's dilemma sanatanadharma Dec 2022 #38

If I understand you correctly Martin Eden Dec 2022 #39

Order 66? Fla_Democrat Dec 2022 #40

All I have is my integrity I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2022 #41

How do you define "to destroy us" Kaleva Dec 2022 #42