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Kid Berwyn

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36. Very much obliged.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 03:25 PM
Jan 2023

Democracy depends on truth.

I noticed both Webb and Doctorow want to discuss economic Justice, a subject long dear to me.



The Banksters who Stole Uncounted Trillions Should PUT IT BACK.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10025093415



When the rich are the only ones with a voice worth hearing, that spells problems for the rest of us. America, We the People have a problem:

Our democracy to exist requires freedom of the press and the free and open exchange of ideas.

The government is using its powers to prevent that. And what powers they are.



"About this wanting to be a reporter, don't ever change your mind.
It may not be the oldest profession, but it's the best." -- Humphrey Bogart as Ed Hutcheson in Deadline U.S.A.




The AP Seizures and the Frightening Web They've Uncovered

The Government’s War on the Press


by ALFREDO LOPEZ
CounterPunch, MAY 16, 2013

EXCERPT...

There, in a nutshell, is the problem. For the corporate media, there is such still a thing as “no conceivable right to know”. Up to now, part of Obama’s information policy has been that mainstream media qualifies for First Amendment protection but “alternative” journalists and the news organizations they work for, as well as bloggers, activists, writers and others who work independently of major news organizations and who use the Internet as the free vehicle of communications it was invented to be have absolutely no protections. Since 2009, this government is known to have taken action against Internet activists and truth-tellers: seizing servers, email records and virtually all forms of on-line communications and then prosecuting people in over a dozen cases based on some of those seizures. There’s been very little action taken against the corporate press, which for its part has largely ignored or blacked out any reporting on the government attacks on its smaller media competitors.

This “favored status” commercial media has enjoyed has now been trashed. The “protected press” is as exposed as the rest of us. In answering Pruit’s letter, the Justice Department said as much. “We must notify the media organization in advance unless doing so would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation,” U.S. Attorney’s Machen spokesman William Miller explained, in a remark that went way beyond the traditional exemption for protecting lives. He added, “…we are always careful and deliberative in seeking to strike the right balance between the public interest in the free flow of information and the public interest in the fair and effective administration of our criminal laws.”

SNIP...

Where is the limit? Without a court hearing, there is none. If an AP reporter called your phone or emailed you from a targeted cell phone, the government now knows it and your phone number (and possibly email address) is now part of the investigation. That gathered information now includes your name, address, phone number, calls you received and calls you made. If they got to the email, all of that is theirs. No matter what those phone calls or email messages from your cell phone are about, they are a part of a government investigation into a major security leak.

SNIP...

Does the Obama Administration deserve that trust? Its stated position is that the government can collect and use any information of this type if there is a security reason to do so. The issue is what is a “security reason” and, since courts have been effectively removed from the process, that definition is completely in the hands of the Justice Department, Homeland Security, the FBI and the National Security Agency. If one of those agencies says you have no right to privacy, you don’t.

CONTINUED COINTELPRO...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/05/16/the-governments-war-on-the-press/



The moment freedom of the press is gone, freedom itself is gone extinct.

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10 minute video about Bernays. Very interesting underpants Jan 2023 #1
Bernays was Sigmund Freud's American nephew. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #5
Unfortunately threads sink like a stone in GD underpants Jan 2023 #6
It is a shame! Dustlawyer Jan 2023 #20
It depends on what you mean by the "mass media." There have always been conservative papers, Martin68 Jan 2023 #31
And there, in your last sentence, lies the problem. Ligyron Jan 2023 #44
That's right. Stop blaming the "mass media." Start blaming the education system. Start blaming a Martin68 Jan 2023 #55
Each successive Republican administration has bent the FCC to work for corporations. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #59
Nope. Systems are ALWAYS more powerful than the individual. Caliman73 Jan 2023 #71
Young Dems need to know these basic truths. blm Jan 2023 #2
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2023 #3
Especially with all this "Both Sides Do It!!!!" rot. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #7
++ appalachiablue Jan 2023 #17
Nice analogy about the smoking. Aristus Jan 2023 #4
My wife's mom looked a lot like Katherine Hepburn. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #8
Seems corporations are following in the foot steps of religion. Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #9
Exactly. The "Rule You's" "Fool You" Departments. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #11
That's a great image Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #47
Cleveland 1911 Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #57
Explains why it is more entertainment than information treestar Jan 2023 #10
Filling up minds with "useless information" robs minds... Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #15
I highly recommend that you read books that show the war for democracy on the Internet, ancianita Jan 2023 #29
Thank you! Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #33
Pleasure! MIT Press keeps up with this democracy issue on the nets. ancianita Jan 2023 #35
Very much obliged. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #36
Re "The moment freedom of the press is gone, freedom itself is gone extinct," that's why hackers ancianita Jan 2023 #37
Taking one's political cues from an anti-liberal like Noam Chomsky is a very poor idea. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #12
+100! Right On! reACTIONary Jan 2023 #13
The post really isn't about Chomsky, though. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #21
No, we should worry about propaganda in our lives, and Chomsky's propaganda Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #50
He considers himself a liberal Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #48
Tip: "anarcho-syndicalist and libertarian socialist" and "liberal" are not congruent terms. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #49
Never said they were. Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #51
Post removed Post removed Jan 2023 #52
No you assumed Farmer-Rick Jan 2023 #53
Well, that's for sure. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #54
It is quite possible for you to have the degree you claim and for you to be wrong. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #60
Thank you for your thoughtful post Wild blueberry Jan 2023 #14
You are most welcome! Please let us know what you think. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #42
Two-part podcast is riveting and very important Wild blueberry Jan 2023 #45
Bookmarking... JT99 Jan 2023 #16
Thank you! Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #43
well what do you know? 90-percent Jan 2023 #18
Don Pardo and Terry Bozio. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #41
TY, vy impt. info that many people, esp. younger need to know about. appalachiablue Jan 2023 #19
For some reason, the text books missed this story. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #58
Messaging. It's all about effective messaging. CaptainTruth Jan 2023 #22
Thus the rise of "Narrative." Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #63
Its use by Bernays is an excellent argument against the word "masses." Hortensis Jan 2023 #23
How the Elite Talk in Code Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #64
Yes. Nearly 250M of us are eligible to vote. If even 10% more Hortensis Jan 2023 #67
Good post Kid Berwyn. My saying that and 10 bucks will get you a cup of coffee. Prairie_Seagull Jan 2023 #24
Thanks! With prices these days, I appreciate the sentiment. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #65
Brilliant post, Kid. Thank you! ancianita Jan 2023 #25
You are most welcome, ancianita! Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #66
They sure did DownriverDem Jan 2023 #26
Hate Radio Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #68
Yup it's right wing brainwashing. Initech Jan 2023 #27
The thought brings tears to my eyes. Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #69
Always the best info! Thanks!! 7wo7rees Jan 2023 #28
Coming from you, that means the world. Thank you! Kid Berwyn Jan 2023 #70
K & R Thanks for this post FakeNoose Jan 2023 #30
Absolutely wonderful post. Very thought-provoking. erronis Jan 2023 #32
Dynamite post! KR Viz Jan 2023 #34
Great OP malaise Jan 2023 #38
We only have to note how the media, all of it including entertainment, during the 70s were busy ShazamIam Jan 2023 #39
K&R, excellent post. GoodRaisin Jan 2023 #40
And the phrase "liberal media", with all its negative connotations... kentuck Jan 2023 #46
Thank you for the concise reminder. kr PufPuf23 Jan 2023 #56
I came across this web page--Tools That Fight Disinformation Online--a few months ago. barbaraann Jan 2023 #61
Bookmarked for later n/t Martin Eden Jan 2023 #62
k&r for all the info Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2023 #72
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