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Honeycombe8

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37. Yes, those are the things I remember. I just especially remember the metal tubes.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:34 PM
Nov 2012

I think I remember that so well because it was so alarming that Rice had given a special interview saying something completely wrong. Not just a little wrong. Flat wrong. (I choose to believe she was fooled; she didn't seem like the lyin' kind to me...just stupid.)

So there were news accounts out there, showing the WMD story was fishy, at best. But it's also true that those stories were fewer and you were less likely to run across them.

I don't remember when I came to believe the WMD story was false. I started out believing it. But gradually over time, I came to know they'd lied to us and to Congress. Clark (I think that's his name) wrote a book. Stories on TV pointing out lack of evidence. Inspectors not finding anything in Iraq. A U.K. story was big....the admin. said they got intel from the UK, but the UK intel was printed, and it was not what our admin said.

All these things came together, and I came to believe the story that 9/11 was an excuse for Cheney, Rumsfeld, & Wolfowitz, to invade Iraq.

I was a teen during vietnam. I recall then, too, coming to a realization that we shouldn't be there, that things were not going well, that a LOT of our young men were getting injured & killed. It was a combination of rock and folk music, free thinkers on TV, films of the war, etc. (to the extent a teen notices these things).

"Stabbed in the back" theories [View all] struggle4progress Nov 2012 OP
Good comparison. Fortunately, we won this one without "conventional weapons" libdem4life Nov 2012 #1
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K&R! Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #5
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I propose we round up and detain the 47% of Americans who supported Mitt. Flatulo Nov 2012 #14
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Here, I fixed it for ya: freshwest Nov 2012 #15
fixed it? you done removed all my catastrophes! struggle4progress Nov 2012 #16
There is no such things as a CATastrophy. Only non-kitteh-catastrophes. So there! freshwest Nov 2012 #18
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The more they think they're winning the safer.. zentrum Nov 2012 #17
My current theory is blind hatred... DryHump Nov 2012 #19
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Wait, so she moved to France??? smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #28
Yes, her husband's employer sent them. They have rented a huge old house japple Nov 2012 #32
struggle4progress Diclotican Nov 2012 #23
Good Information. Sognefjord Nov 2012 #34
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I don't recall being told we were winning Vietnam. It was all over the news... Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #27
Say what? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #29
I know what I saw on TV. I KNEW we were not winning. Everyone knew. That's how I remember it. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #33
Honeycombe8 Diclotican Nov 2012 #36
Yes, those are the things I remember. I just especially remember the metal tubes. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #37
Honeycombe8 Diclotican Nov 2012 #38
They're already claiming that it's 'voter fraud' Sirveri Nov 2012 #30
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