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In reply to the discussion: This will offend some people, and for any offence I apologize. [View all]TigressDem
(5,126 posts)Jesus didn't write or inspire the Old Testament.
What is "fulfilled" is with Jesus' own blood as He stood in place to take on the scourge of our sinfulness.
His death, His sacrifice teaches us that to truly be forgiven we must accept a New Way of living.
It does not require that we disobey the Old Laws, but calls us to a higher standard of living that is in line with the HEART of the law.
Jesus stood there with Pharisees that were like the money grubbing "prophets" of today, who preached whatever filled the coffers and called them on their hypocrisy.
The CLARITY Jesus gave to obeying the HEART of the law was this, "Love one another as I have loved you." John 13:34
Jesus stopped a woman who was to be stoned. John 8:3-11 "Let he among you who has not sinned cast the first stone" He was writing on the ground as he said this and it is thought he was listing out the sins of those present. But at any rate, he made them face their own truth and they left and Jesus didn't choose to hurt her either.
It's a different way of thinking than the Old Testament.
Boiled down, Jesus told people, quit being awful to each other and do good things instead. Stop the madness.
Living by rules down to the microsecond won't save your souls.
Changing your whole way of life and rising above the pettiness is the only way.
YOU are acting more like a Pharisee than a mature agnostic or atheist. I know. I've had fruitful talks with many pagans and those of multiple religions. IF Christians were REALLY Christlike, they would NOT HATE anyone.
Jesus went to His death hoping we would allow ourselves to be forgiven and change our ways to treat others with kindness and love.
IF YOU WANT TO PISS ON THAT, go ahead. It's still a free country.
But it does NOT show you to be a tolerant person. AT ALL. So by your own actions you show yourself to be just as unhinged as the REICH WING.
AND I GET IT.
They use the Bible as a tool to beat people with and have driven people crazy with the abuses of power.
But cherry picking verses to make it show what you want it to isn't any type of thoughtful discourse.
I'm not trying to convert you.
I am simply asking for respectful conversation.
Jesus NEVER harmed or told anyone to harm children. You are twisting verses to show how child abusers justify beating their children and saying, "It's in the Bible!" It happens. In that you are correct, but it is at odds with the actual understanding of ALL the things Jesus said and did when you put them together and see it as a whole.
People aren't perfect, but every thoughtful moment can lead to a change in behavior.
Perfection is a long way off, but improvement can happen every day.
Peace.
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