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Beastly Boy

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3. Can't recall the timing of your martial law concerns, but
Thu Aug 10, 2023, 02:56 PM
Aug 2023

martial law is very different from an insurrection. So your concern was not only radical, it never materialized, and I don't recall you being concerned about a mob charging the Capitol. Trump surely considered the former and decided against it because even he, along with the rest of us, didn't think, and rightfully so, that the army will support him, and that's why he chose the latter. There were debates on DU about what might happen before the elections and the inauguration, and January 6 was one of several dates discussed in this debate, but certainly not the only one and not the most significant one. It wasn't a debate about what might happen on January 6.

The oft repeated accusations of DOJ not investigating Trump, which is based in large part on a WP article widely derided for its shoddy journalism or outright fact-free speculations, is a fairy tale. All evidence suggests that the DOJ investigation into Trump has been ongoing since even before Garland took office (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/politics/justice-department-trump-capitol.html), and way before the J6 Committee came up with their criminal referrals in December of 2022. In March 2022, WP reported that "In the past two months, a federal grand jury in Washington has issued subpoena requests to some officials in former president Donald Trump’s orbit who assisted in planning, funding and executing the Jan. 6 rally", eaning the subpoenas went out as early as January 2022. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/30/jan-6-fbi-subpoena-justice/). In April 2022, "Sources confirm to Reuters that the U.S. Justice Department was investigating Trump's removal of official presidential records from the White House." (https://www.voanews.com/a/timeline-of-the-trump-documents-inquiry-/6734453.html). In July 2022 DOJ was already investigating Trump himself (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/30/jan-6-fbi-subpoena-justice/), and has not ruled out charging him (https://www.businessinsider.com/merrick-garland-hasnt-ruled-out-charging-trump-over-january-6-2022-7). In May of 2022, DOJ subpoenas National Archives for Trump's classified docs. On August 8,2022, FBI raids Mar-a Lago for classified docs (https://www.voanews.com/a/timeline-of-the-trump-documents-inquiry-/6734453.html).

All of the above happened before Jack Smith took over the Trump part of the DOJ investigation, which was by then well on its way, and THIS is what is not debatable. All of the evidence collected by DOJ since 1/6, 2021 was given to Smith by DOJ.

So what is Jack Smith #1 concern today? Certainly not timing. It is, very predictably, successful prosecution of Trump. If Trump gets acquitted, timing means jack shit (pun not intended). If Trump gets elected before trial, time means jack shit. If Trumps gets elected after the trial, timing means jack shit. Jack Smith has no business timing any of it.

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