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onenote

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16. I think people may be reading too much into this

Reply to Nevilledog (Original post)

Tue Oct 10, 2023, 04:07 PM

Oct 2023

The relevant element of a Section 793( e ) violation discussed by Smith is as follows: "willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it"

The only "intent" that Smith needs to prove is that Trump intended to keep the documents. He doesn't need to prove, and I doubt he will, exactly what Trump planned to do with the documents beyond keeping them and not returning them.

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A tantalizing detail in a new Trump legal filing [View all] Nevilledog Oct 2023 OP

Part of the how that occurred was the defendant's deep self-delusion that he hadn't lost gratuitous Oct 2023 #1

No, he knew he lost and admitted it. Frasier Balzov Oct 2023 #8

I'm sure he was able to convince himself at times Demobrat Oct 2023 #14

Exactly traitor is a Sociopthic Cha Oct 2023 #21

There was no delusion, strictly his willful act of stealing documents for his own gain. Bev54 Oct 2023 #17

The ratchet turns ... KPN Oct 2023 #2

This is big. Thanks for posting. Joinfortmill Oct 2023 #3

That is an interesting turn of events RainCaster Oct 2023 #4

Interesting........... MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #5

Great detective work. (*) usonian Oct 2023 #6

Oooooh Yeah!!! calimary Oct 2023 #7

K&R spanone Oct 2023 #9

Wow! BarbD Oct 2023 #10

The other thing I'd like to know is who he sold our secret intelligence to. Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #11

BINGO! THIS ☝️ Duppers Oct 2023 #22

Good find! senseandsensibility Oct 2023 #12

Kick burrowowl Oct 2023 #13

Sweet! PortTack Oct 2023 #15

I think people may be reading too much into this onenote Oct 2023 #16

And a few others are downplaying it. triron Oct 2023 #24

Jared Kushner must be talking to the prosecutors now FakeNoose Oct 2023 #18

"They're my documents." Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #19

"Tantalizing" is the perfect descriptor for this little nugget. liberalla Oct 2023 #20

"what Trump intended in retaining them" Takket Oct 2023 #23

Exactly! And they wouldn't pay that much... lastlib Oct 2023 #25

...trial primarily with unclassified evidence." Fix The Stupid Oct 2023 #26

I think it means they are going to use his texts, emails, & words as evidence. CrispyQ Oct 2023 #29

If they can do that, it will be a game changer. Martin68 Oct 2023 #27

Thank you, Jack and team republianmushroom Oct 2023 #28