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Sat Dec 2, 2023, 09:24 AM Dec 2

The US will "under no circumstances" permit the forced relocation of Palestinians, Harris says [View all]

From CNN’s Sam Fossum

US Vice President Kamala Harris speaks during the COP28 climate summit in Dubai, on December 2. Karim Sahib/AFP/Getty Images

Washington will not allow for the forced relocations of Palestinians or any redrawing of the current border of the Gaza Strip, US Vice President Kamala Harris said in a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi.

"Under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza," Harris explained, according to a statement from the vice president's office.

During their meeting, Harris and Sisi discussed "ideas for post-conflict planning in Gaza including efforts on reconstruction, security, and governance," the statement said.

"She (Harris) emphasized that these efforts can only succeed if they are pursued in the context of a clear political horizon for the Palestinian people towards a state of their own led by a revitalized Palestinian Authority and have significant support from the international community and the countries of the region."


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Get thee to the greatest page malaise Dec 2 #1
K&R! Goddessartist Dec 2 #2
The fact this needed to be said is quite damning RAB910 Dec 2 #3
KNR niyad Dec 2 #4
I'm curious; by "not permit" what does she mean? RandomNumbers Dec 2 #5
The US could cut all aid and diplomatic support. David__77 Dec 2 #7
Can the executive branch do that without support of Congress? RandomNumbers Dec 2 #8
I imagine there's grey area with the power of the branches. David__77 Dec 2 #10
Netanyahu will have to decide Bettie Dec 2 #25
It's pretty simple. Funding will cease flowing. brush Dec 2 #41
So, the executive branch can do that without Congress? RandomNumbers Dec 2 #47
How it's done is not the issue now. It's the delivery of the message to Netanyahu... brush Dec 2 #50
I don't disagree with the intent RandomNumbers Dec 2 #51
It's getting down to funding. Netayahu is not immune to the realpolitiks... brush Dec 2 #52
Interesting that the word "permit" was used.. David__77 Dec 2 #6
I thought that was interesting, too. yardwork Dec 2 #9
It's a bad word to use, for TWO REASONS: Martin Eden Dec 2 #38
Agreed on point number 2 - there's no wiggle room in that statement, which needs to be backed up. David__77 Dec 2 #39
Right. It's about the funding, which includes the weapons used by the IDF. brush Dec 2 #44
I remember when that sort of intemperate language was quite common. jaxexpat Dec 3 #75
I'm for it, but I must have missed this being a thing. gulliver Dec 2 #11
"Rejecting US stance, PM told Blinken that IDF will create buffer zone 'deep' into Gaza -- report" David__77 Dec 2 #12
Ah, that could be. gulliver Dec 2 #14
I agree with a buffer zone. At least a half mile on each side of the border. keithbvadu2 Dec 2 #17
They may try to deport the people in Gaza. David__77 Dec 2 #19
Would a buffer zone require a forced relocation of some people? MichMan Dec 2 #35
Yes, it would. David__77 Dec 2 #48
A 2-state solution with the Palestinian Authority in control NickB79 Dec 2 #13
A large problem with that is that almost all the RW Netanyahu government and their illegal settler supporters Celerity Dec 2 #26
Shouldn't be their choice anyway. Think. Again. Dec 2 #33
Absolutely, hamas must go. Think. Again. Dec 2 #32
A two state solution is not viable. David__77 Dec 2 #54
The only way Hamas will ever agree to a two state solution is if neither one of the states is Israel. MichMan Dec 2 #72
Bibi is against a two-state solution as well. Bibi will be gone after the war is over. Possibly Hamas too. brush Dec 3 #76
Too bad no one in the Middle East has stepped up to help. SouthernDem4ever Dec 3 #87
But "permitting" the slaughter of thousands....n/t leftstreet Dec 2 #15
Unfortunately, this campaign is done with active military and diplomatic support. David__77 Dec 2 #22
netanfuckyou is mr settlement. pansypoo53219 Dec 2 #16
Biden has said this to President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi, as has Blinken... Donkees Dec 2 #18
Now demand an end to West Bank Settlements and the dismantling of many that are there prodigitalson Dec 2 #20
and compensation for those whose property was illegally taken DBoon Dec 2 #21
The settlements are on about 5% of the West Bank Mosby Dec 2 #42
Apparently, like the Native Americans, people didn't have their documents in order, I suppose. David__77 Dec 2 #53
So because it's not deeded does that mean anyone can take it but Palestinians law? Thanks in advance uponit7771 Dec 3 #90
And bar settlers from getting US visas. David__77 Dec 2 #23
25% of the settlers are Americans. Mosby Dec 2 #43
I didn't say bar them citizenship. Charge them with a crime. David__77 Dec 2 #46
Right, let's punish women and children for being born in a 50 year old Jewish neighborhood. tritsofme Dec 2 #58
Not for being born. For engaging in settlement. David__77 Dec 2 #59
For generations of families, it's just where they were born. tritsofme Dec 2 #66
That is part of why a two state solution will not work. David__77 Dec 2 #67
Probably not. Ideally Gaza would revert to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan. tritsofme Dec 2 #69
Hopefully Egypt and Jordan would reject that. David__77 Dec 2 #70
What is the difference Zeitghost Dec 3 #93
But, it's OK for the US to continue to punish the majority of Cubans who were born after the Cold War. Marcus IM Dec 2 #60
Pls, there's enough to discuss with the Gaza situation. Cuba is another topic. brush Dec 3 #77
It's relating to collective punishment. Marcus IM Dec 3 #88
Forced relocation seems fine to be fine to some Zeitghost Dec 3 #92
A bold & welcomed statement. Basic LA Dec 2 #24
Under no circumstances and permit. Those are very strong words when talking about another sovereign power. paleotn Dec 2 #27
Yep, speaking directly to Netanyahu/Likud. No new Nakba or re-drawing of borders. brush Dec 2 #45
And we're providing 2000 lb bunker buster bombs to prove it! Marcus IM Dec 2 #28
She is perhaps being hung out to dry when you look at that plus what is likely to be 14.5 billion usd given to Celerity Dec 2 #57
Prez Biden MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2 #61
U.S. Sends Israel 2,000-Pound Bunker Buster Bombs for Gaza War Celerity Dec 2 #63
That's the harsh reality of the situation. The US can in no way be an honest broker... brush Dec 3 #78
As an aside--our VP Harris is getting lots of foreign policy experience. riversedge Dec 2 #29
When we moniss Dec 2 #30
Thank Goddess!! claudette Dec 2 #31
K&R onecaliberal Dec 2 #34
I hate to bring this up, but... Think. Again. Dec 2 #36
We discussed the gas field here on Nov 20... Donkees Dec 2 #37
I meant on the international level... Think. Again. Dec 2 #40
Good question. I wouldn't put it past Netanyahu to want to get his hands on it. brush Dec 2 #49
Israel controls Gaza's territorial waters, at present... Donkees Dec 2 #55
And when the U.S. says... Think. Again. Dec 3 #79
When Gaza becomes a state, its territorial waters should come under their control ... Donkees Dec 3 #80
Here is a map of Maritime Boundary Claim (Gaza Corridor) Donkees Dec 3 #82
Map of Gas Field (Gaza Marine) Donkees Dec 3 #83
Thanks for going out of your way to explain that to me... Think. Again. Dec 3 #84
I am trying to understand this as well. Agree with you, all sides are focusing on the buried treasure Donkees Dec 3 #86
Marking.... Gaza's gas wells questionseverything Dec 3 #89
That's claudette Dec 3 #81
Yeah... Think. Again. Dec 3 #85
Context generally helps. lapucelle Dec 2 #56
I don't see a difference. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2 #62
Maybe you should should read it again then. lapucelle Dec 2 #64
There is no such caveat in the official readout. David__77 Dec 2 #65
I think that's called "messaging." N/T lapucelle Dec 2 #68
It is a little late for that. Somewhere around 50% of homes are now rubble. Chainfire Dec 2 #71
Some quick thoughts... Shipwack Dec 2 #73
The press chose an interesting time Mr.Bill Dec 2 #74
I do appreciate her words. They are very strong words indeed. David__77 Dec 3 #91
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