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Mc Mike

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50. From a post-er appelated 'azurnoir', posted on Hissy's 'Flash' o.p., on 9/12:
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:40 AM
Nov 2012

" An "angry crowd" marched on the consulate on Tuesday, angry about an online film considered offensive to Islam, Libya's Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif said Wednesday. The U.S. mission in Egypt was also attacked Tuesday in response to the film.

Al-Sharif said that consulate security staff opened fire when they heard gunfire outside the mission.

"This led to more anger and this is when the consulate was stormed," he said, suggesting that there were elements loyal to the regime of deposed dictator Moammar Gadhafi aiming to create chaos among the protesters.

"Criminals managed to get in and they burned and ransacked the consulate," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/africa/libya-us-ambassador-killed/index.html

the article also states that Libyans were also killed but doesn't say how many "

--Azur's post ends.

CNN said the Libyan Deputy Interior Minister said the attack was in response to the film. Now two months later, things are getting muddier and more obscured, instead of clearer. Maybe the film created the furor, maybe not. But CNN reported initially that the new Libyan gov thought it did. When the media keeps contradicting themselves and changing the story, tossing red herrings into the mix, there is intel skulduggery involved. The whole OP had some interesting info on the issue, links to initial mainstream news coverage. Of course, you'll have to wade through beaucoup 'Free Speech' sidetracking:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014226496

Post-er triplepoint's post 36 has some info on the players. Ash F's post 34 says the filmmaker claimed the movie 'cost' $5 mil to make.

Yep. Who translated and disseminated it, timed for the anniversary of 9-11? Mc Mike Nov 2012 #1
I think that investigators should be following the money. yardwork Nov 2012 #4
They put that Coptic Basselly guy in jail on a probation violation. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #7
It stinks like Iran-Contra. It has that stench. yardwork Nov 2012 #8
Off the shelf intel ops by the out of power repug party. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #10
Yes, and it goes back further than Kennedy. yardwork Nov 2012 #15
I'd like to see some good investigative journalism, and good gov oversight investigation by OUR side Mc Mike Nov 2012 #21
That's why I posted this thread. Maybe some trolling journalist will get an idea. yardwork Nov 2012 #23
Exactly brush Nov 2012 #54
I think your post is excellent, has great points. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #59
"Let's start riots so we can complain about the lack of law and order" struggle4progress Nov 2012 #2
Exactly. And maybe "let's start riots" so that they will lead to an October surprise. yardwork Nov 2012 #6
last I heard the filmaker was in jail on quinnox Nov 2012 #3
I think that you're missing my point. yardwork Nov 2012 #5
The CIA? Rex Nov 2012 #9
That piece of garbage is NOT a high-budget production slackmaster Nov 2012 #12
Really? Iirc at least one Hollywood actor said that they were hired as talent. yardwork Nov 2012 #13
really. just google it. it was a low, low cost thingie. cali Nov 2012 #51
See post #54 yardwork Nov 2012 #68
It was not slick, required almost no money to produce and B2G Nov 2012 #16
This is the article I remembered reading. yardwork Nov 2012 #28
you might at least try due diligence and actually research before posting bullshit. cali Nov 2012 #53
I have no argument with you about the actual cost, cal. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #61
Are you saying that the article is bullshit? What is your evidence? yardwork Nov 2012 #67
It sounds to me like lame excuses for religious fanatics quinnox Nov 2012 #18
Interesting use of right-wing talking points to attempt to derail this thread. yardwork Nov 2012 #24
No, I just don't see what the point would be of quinnox Nov 2012 #32
the original video-maker was not involved in the translation and dubbed script magical thyme Nov 2012 #39
no. it was violation of parole. cali Nov 2012 #52
He was convicted of bank fraud, then released on probation CJCRANE Nov 2012 #76
It doesn't matter who funded it slackmaster Nov 2012 #11
Way to the miss the point. yardwork Nov 2012 #14
Your point is moot. The video was not the true cause of any riots or violence. slackmaster Nov 2012 #17
I don't think you understand my point or you are trying hard to divert attention from it. yardwork Nov 2012 #27
I'll say it again - It doesn't matter who made the video or who paid for it. slackmaster Nov 2012 #33
Open your mind a bit brush Nov 2012 #56
OK, it's open now. slackmaster Nov 2012 #63
So you don't think . . . brush Nov 2012 #65
Forget it, brush. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #66
Investigating for WHAT? There's no indication that a crime was committed. slackmaster Nov 2012 #74
We're talking about a political process. yardwork Nov 2012 #77
If nobody is investigating it to your satisfaction, perhaps you should investigate it yourself slackmaster Nov 2012 #80
This thread is yielding all kinds of interesting discussion, which was my goal. yardwork Nov 2012 #86
Thank you for your excellent assessment. I agree. PufPuf23 Nov 2012 #119
Tell that to Egypt and the dozen other nations that rioted because of the movie. Barack_America Nov 2012 #58
Funny, there are millions of muslims in the US. None of them 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #90
The movie wasn't publicized here like it was in Egypt. Barack_America Nov 2012 #121
People put offensive and stupid things on the internet every day, probably a million times a day. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #19
+1 for First Amendment protected rights to ask questions and have opinions. yardwork Nov 2012 #31
I noticed "Slack's" lack of re to my 19, Mc Mike Nov 2012 #49
Yeah brush Nov 2012 #91
Yes, it does.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #105
Um, those protections would protect whoever funded it as well 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #112
About as "elaborate" as the scheme put together to make John Kerry's military service.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #115
I think all this talk about political conspiracies is just a smoke screen to keep people from 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #116
Why was this filmmaker/turd even in the US? AngryAmish Nov 2012 #20
Good questions. I wonder why. yardwork Nov 2012 #26
There does not appear to be a link between the video and Benghazi ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #22
There may be no link with Benghazi but it's a hell of a coincidence yardwork Nov 2012 #25
From a post-er appelated 'azurnoir', posted on Hissy's 'Flash' o.p., on 9/12: Mc Mike Nov 2012 #50
I think it's a hell of a coincidence that 9/11 occurred 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #113
Unlikely. Igel Nov 2012 #29
I'm not saying that the video caused the attacks. Nobody is saying that. yardwork Nov 2012 #30
Keep making sense, yardwork . . . brush Nov 2012 #94
In the absence of other data, it was reasonable to assume the video and attack were related stevenleser Nov 2012 #34
Good question blue_heron Nov 2012 #35
I've been working on this ... Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #36
Thank you very much! This is exactly what I was hoping somebody would start to explore. yardwork Nov 2012 #40
I think the amazing thing - what needs to be focused on is not as much the production Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #42
Very good point. That would take money and connections. yardwork Nov 2012 #44
and maybe twitter (seriously) Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #45
What interested me the most Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #46
YES! brush Nov 2012 #98
Thanks for the sum up and links. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #48
+1 rosesaylavee Nov 2012 #57
Interesting that Geller was soliciting after the movie was made... hexola Nov 2012 #71
She did produce those anti-muslim posters . . . brush Nov 2012 #102
My money's on Pam Geller...BUT the bigger question is the coordination.... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #82
Ah hah! brush Nov 2012 #103
Exactement! Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #117
My point above is Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #120
The numerous protests seemed to be well organized... AntiFascist Nov 2012 #37
wouldn't this be amazing,,,,if this was all uncovered and proven to be a staged event. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #43
Who were the mysterious "people who were saved" by the ex-seals?? hexola Nov 2012 #73
More please brush Nov 2012 #106
The attack on Rice is a smokescreen to cover for Romney. DevonRex Nov 2012 #38
Interesting speculation! yardwork Nov 2012 #41
Yes. DevonRex Nov 2012 #47
So there may be more to Patraeus' downfall . . . brush Nov 2012 #107
I don't think there was ever actually a "movie" d_r Nov 2012 #55
Calling it a preview implied that an entire movie was in production. That was the point. yardwork Nov 2012 #72
video. bionnaki Nov 2012 #60
But people did riot over it. People riot when preacher Terry burns a Koran in Florida. yardwork Nov 2012 #70
The video is just a maguffin. The effect comes from what the TV pundits CJCRANE Nov 2012 #83
Exactly! What is going on here? yardwork Nov 2012 #85
It was laughable how could anyone get offended at such nonsense? ileus Nov 2012 #62
I'm pretty sure most of the rioters never saw the video slackmaster Nov 2012 #64
So it sounds like you recognize that this was a coordinated plan yardwork Nov 2012 #69
The riots were all about the anniversary of 9/11 slackmaster Nov 2012 #75
And you know this for a fact how? Did the CIA provide you with talking points? yardwork Nov 2012 #78
A bunch of Muslims rioting on September 11 is nothing to see slackmaster Nov 2012 #81
Ahhh . . . brush Nov 2012 #108
I'm betting money that the regular names were involved malaise Nov 2012 #79
There's also a clear Florida connection, which suggests the Bushes. yardwork Nov 2012 #84
Which would mean Rove. brush Nov 2012 #109
Don't rule it out malaise Nov 2012 #118
No laws were broken. That's why law enforcement isn't investigating 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #87
That talking point got trashed upthread. You'll need to check with headquarters for the next one. yardwork Nov 2012 #88
When did 'talking point' become code for an accurate and true point 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #89
One word - DURHAM D Nov 2012 #92
Er, no. 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #93
Why not? DURHAM D Nov 2012 #95
Because the movie didn't advocate rebelling against US laws 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #96
Love your narrowly defined definition of sedition... NOT. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #97
I used the definition you provided 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #99
You may want to read it again. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #100
Actually you may want to read it 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #101
Again, we won't know until investigated. DURHAM D Nov 2012 #110
No court has considered this a crime 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #111
Sideshow. The real question, what exactly were Stevens and the CIA doing in Benghazi? leveymg Nov 2012 #104
Well, yeah. yardwork Nov 2012 #122
It's been rightfully forgotten customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #114
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