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LTG

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54. Thoughts on Federal vs States rights and the Constitution
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:14 AM
Apr 2024

The Constitution’s not only set forth the structure of our government but specifies what powers are given to it and restricts the federal exercise of any powers not specifically granted to it by the states and the people.

First - Specify the nature and structure of the 3 branches of government and the duties, powers and jurisdiction of each. It also detailed the process of selection of its principal officers and officials, laying out their individual qualifications, duties and powers.

Second - Enumerate and restrict federal government powers to areas specifically set forth and permitted to it by the Constitution. All non-enumerated powers are reserved to the states or the people.

Third - It specifies the only methods by which the Constitution and be amended in any way. It creates a process that was intentionally not easily nor hastily accomplished

The Bill of Rights was to protect the natural rights and freedoms of all citizens from the actions and interference of the government

Essentially, to be constitutional all federal laws must fall within one of the constitutionally enumerated powers. That’s why you sometimes find somewhat tortured connections between a law or legal opinion and an enumerated power. Many federal laws rest on the federal power over interstate commerce.

It’s the basis of arguments whether a firearm homemade in a state and only possessed in that state would still fall under federal firearms laws. Basically the court decided it wasn’t strictly the federal firearms laws themselves that created federal supremacy and jurisdiction, but rather that they rested upon Interstate Commerce, an enumerated power.

The reasoning was that since it had been made, even though by a citizen for personal use and not sale, its existence still impacted interstate commerce.

The court could also, I’m sure, have crafted a rational argument that many things are made by individuals for personal use and never intended to be sold. If not homemade the citizen may not have ever purchased one. Without support under Interstate Commerce the court might have ruled the prosecution outside the powers of the federal government and therefore unconstitutional.

The federal government can not simply give themselves the authority, by passing a law, in areas with no underlying enumerated power. Over the years the courts have managed to find a nexus to something connected to an enumerated federal power to create federal jurisdiction when it served either the law or their desire to so rule.

That all being said, I’m sure there are in fact things local jurisdictions could make criminal even if the feds disapprove. I just haven’t thought deeply enough into it to come up with one this late at night, or rather early in the morning.

The main thing that set this all off was to correct the notion that while the Constitution and any Treaties or laws made pursuant to its provisions are the supreme law of the land, it only means those made pursuant to the limitations of the enumerated powers.

The Constitution’s was written to restrict federal powers. All powers of government not given the federal government specifically by the Constitution belong to the states and the people.

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Good malaise Apr 2024 #1
From your lips senseandsensibility Apr 2024 #2
Well, if hospitals won't observe basic federal laws to provide needed care, Attilatheblond Apr 2024 #3
In Idaho, all you need is a knife, a bullet to bit on, and lots of whisky. erronis Apr 2024 #30
I like the S. Korean 4B Movement -- no dating, no sex, no marriage, no kids. OMGWTF Apr 2024 #31
Amen. TSExile Apr 2024 #56
There's an idea. Captain Zero Apr 2024 #63
Alito said what? LiberalFighter Apr 2024 #4
Well, the Sinister Six may be looking at extraordinary rendition Aviation Pro Apr 2024 #5
If they decide the orange has total immunity BlueKota Apr 2024 #10
If they aren't willing to take the gloves off, then who will be responsible for the loss of our Democracy? usaf-vet Apr 2024 #45
Good question BlueKota Apr 2024 #55
Some of those six justices would be at risk. LiberalFighter Apr 2024 #28
Absolutely ALEC has been more visable with their actions. But the Federalist Society is the ones teeing up SCOTUS seats. usaf-vet Apr 2024 #46
He said hes never heard of the Supremacy Clause. Volaris Apr 2024 #18
Apparently he has never heard of the Hippocratic Oath that all doctors take either. pazzyanne Apr 2024 #65
It would seem that the Dr.'s DENVERPOPS Apr 2024 #67
even without immunity Traurigkeit Apr 2024 #32
No kidding.. mountain grammy Apr 2024 #38
Six shit heads misogynists BlueKota Apr 2024 #6
The woman is indeed a misogynist Aviation Pro Apr 2024 #8
She's a card-carrying handmaiden. dchill Apr 2024 #34
"How can you impose restrictions on what Idaho can criminalize?" 0rganism Apr 2024 #7
To me the worst thing was when he asked the Idaho guy TxGuitar Apr 2024 #12
So...Idaho can criminalize paying federal taxes? n/t forgotmylogin Apr 2024 #25
What if Idaho decides that Supreme Court rulings do not apply to Idaho? LakeVermilion Apr 2024 #52
More women and those who love us will suffer if so, mahina Apr 2024 #9
Does alito think Idaho could criminalize black people voting? unblock Apr 2024 #11
Republicans used to be against judicial activism. They seem to love it when it benefits their own desires. keithbvadu2 Apr 2024 #13
They Were NEVER Against Judicial Activism ProfessorGAC Apr 2024 #15
Aye! keithbvadu2 Apr 2024 #17
Just wait. They'll tank the abortion pill, too. The only way women in this country will be guaranteed Vinca Apr 2024 #14
I may be nave, but I thought Barrett and yorkster Apr 2024 #16
I haven't heard what Kavanaugh said, but I agree that Barrett sounded quite skeptical. ShazzieB Apr 2024 #36
I admit her remarks surprised me. n/t pazzyanne Apr 2024 #59
Since when did state laws Blue Idaho Apr 2024 #19
Primary school lesson WOLFMAN87 Apr 2024 #37
Welcome to DU! Wednesdays Apr 2024 #70
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #74
The Subversive Court does not care about law, logic, or consequences, only their extreme ideology. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2024 #20
so it appears.. mountain grammy Apr 2024 #40
It's absurd. The purpose of federal law cannot be increased risk of death. bucolic_frolic Apr 2024 #21
"How can you impose restrictions on what Idaho can criminalize?" Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. asked the solicitor general 3825-87867 Apr 2024 #22
Stand your ground doesnt remove the reasonable person standard for self defense. DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2024 #39
Term limit the SCOTUS Dan Apr 2024 #23
13 Justices and 10 years MAX. Seeing most justices get on board about late mid 50s/late 60s so that'll let them be Traurigkeit Apr 2024 #33
Term limits would require an Amendment DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2024 #41
Expect a huge fight over expansion, though. Wednesdays Apr 2024 #71
To justice Alito: Killing women should be restricted dlk Apr 2024 #24
WaPo gift article irisblue Apr 2024 #26
The Supremacy Clause is the cornerstone of federal authority. Have the hateful Six forgotten that bit of Federal trivia. Ford_Prefect Apr 2024 #27
Just for asking such a stupid question.... ShazzieB Apr 2024 #29
Stealing this malaise Apr 2024 #57
Please help yourself! ShazzieB Apr 2024 #72
Plrase, feel free! ShazzieB Apr 2024 #73
I don't ForgedCrank Apr 2024 #35
Sick six Demovictory9 Apr 2024 #42
How can a state be allowed to criminalize protecting a woman's life? pnwmom Apr 2024 #43
"The Sinister Six" I like it! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2024 #44
From all the keyboards Faux pas Apr 2024 #47
How selective! AncientOfDays Apr 2024 #48
Think about what power Alito is willing to grant states. sinkingfeeling Apr 2024 #49
What if Idaho want to criminalize voting? Captain Zero Apr 2024 #64
Alito is basically saying "Fuck the Constitution" nakocal Apr 2024 #50
Wait till it happens to one of the sinister six's ecstatic Apr 2024 #51
It NEVER will maxrandb Apr 2024 #53
THIS. TSExile Apr 2024 #58
Thoughts on Federal vs States rights and the Constitution LTG Apr 2024 #54
U.S. has a long history of MissMillie Apr 2024 #60
They make me very nervous. Passages Apr 2024 #61
This horrible Court was brought to us by UpInArms Apr 2024 #62
This court is SADISTIC, not supreme Zilli Apr 2024 #66
Even with this SCOTUS, we get a landslide in our favor ONLY Wednesdays Apr 2024 #68
This will hurt. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2024 #69
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