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jmbar2

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36. This is an Active Measures op

Reply to kerry-is-my-prez (Original post)

Thu Jul 18, 2024, 08:53 PM

Jul 2024

"Active Measures" was widely practiced by Russia. Now being adopted in the west.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA704-1.html

- Multiple conflicted sources of information from multiple channels so no one knows who can be trusted, what is true
- News of polls dominate coming so fast that critiques of methods don't get through
- Aim of Russian Active Measures is to get us to act against our best interests.
- Media is too fractured for effective debunking

No longer a Russian tactic. Adopted broadly
- Polls are commissioned by people with an agenda
- Questions framed to generate news, not true views
- Few people have the qualifications or platform to debunk polling errors. It's complicated

This is an op. Biden/Harris know it. Some members of our party have been sucked in.

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Polls in the battleground states and low approval ratings are why [View all] kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 OP

That's an improvement from weeks ago...., Lovie777 Jul 2024 #1

I've been going back and forth with who is best able to win. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #3

Do you Rebl2 Jul 2024 #28

You trying to cheer us up? pwb Jul 2024 #2

Fresh polls Blueshoewins Jul 2024 #27

Really, so they support who? pwb Jul 2024 #44

They will not support Kamala Harris? That is what most kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #49

Who are trying to kid... Butterflylady Jul 2024 #48

And why the low ratings when cilla4progress Jul 2024 #4

I agree he has been great but if he may not be able to win. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #8

Because reporting Biden's successes drmeow Jul 2024 #9

These swing state voters have forgotten Covid Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #11

Na. Self Esteem Jul 2024 #5

"If you back Biden, you will lose our support" DBoon Jul 2024 #12

The polls do not show strength with voters, especially against a candidate as bad as Trump. Doodley Jul 2024 #31

I agree that donor $ (and media irresponsibility) are driving the frenzy spooky3 Jul 2024 #30

I don't care who replaces Joe. That person has my vote. Autumn Jul 2024 #6

Me too. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #14

We have no choice. We must win. Autumn Jul 2024 #20

Winning is all that matters. n/t Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #21

Winston Churchill DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Jul 2024 #7

So FOUR MONTHS is not enough time to turn it around? n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2024 #10

I think something really big would have to happen. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #13

I'd agree with you if the election was a few weeks away Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2024 #16

But 4 months is enough time to rewrite the ticket? edisdead Jul 2024 #29

Polls don't mean a fucking thing. GOVERNANCE does. This is total fucking INSANITY. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #15

Polls bought and paid for by Hedge Fund managers Emile Jul 2024 #17

Polls are garbage. triron Jul 2024 #18

+1, .... the accuracy of the polls is worse than after WWII !! The M$M is paying attention to low MOE, Low model, low .. uponit7771 Jul 2024 #33

How can he be doing much worse in the swing states than nationally? doc03 Jul 2024 #19

There's only a few national polls that show Biden ahead. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #22

compare that to Obama's numbers against Romney 2012 lees1975 Jul 2024 #25

Not true. former9thward Jul 2024 #39

Yeah Obama was leading in July but standingtall Jul 2024 #46

It's hard for women to offset the huge advantage that spooky3 Jul 2024 #32

Please elaborate. Frank D. Lincoln Jul 2024 #40

Look at the Pew verified voting breakdowns, as a start. Nt spooky3 Jul 2024 #42

Okay, I understand what you're saying. Frank D. Lincoln Jul 2024 #47

fuck this con job, Democratic politicians talked those numbers down for weeks bigtree Jul 2024 #24

Thank you for your reasoned message. I agree. Doodley Jul 2024 #26

Thanks! I know I'm sticking my neck out but I know I have to. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #35

Beating Trump and fascism is all that matters. Doodley Jul 2024 #38

don't believe the polls because even toenail fungus would win over tRump. nt ImNotGod Jul 2024 #34

You sure about that? Polybius Jul 2024 #41

This is an Active Measures op jmbar2 Jul 2024 #36

Let's just beat the bastard no matter who is running. Klarkashton Jul 2024 #37

I'm guessing the internal polling is worse. NT Bleacher Creature Jul 2024 #43

And there's a memo that went out to Dems that said kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #45