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CrispyQ

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30. IMO, Biden could use better advisors.

Sat Jul 20, 2024, 10:12 AM

Jul 2024

He over prepared & he prepared for a debate with real moderators & was bamboozled by his opponent's free-for-all lie fest. He could have used a few good one-liners. He should add a comedian to his team. But Biden was mostly solid on his facts & just think if the party stood behind him 100% like AOC & Newsom have done, what a different opinion a lot of people would have of Joe Biden today.

Shame on our congressional dems & especially the ones swayed by donors.

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I have never been so outraged and pissed at the Democratic Party than I am today. [View all] JohnSJ Jul 2024 OP

The purple states democratic senators better jimfields33 Jul 2024 #1

The media fails us every time ... ratings over people and democracy NotHardly Jul 2024 #41

And I'm damn sick of it. Getting a lot of my info Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #92

The next show that has carville on will get an email from me BonnieJW Jul 2024 #70

It can be fixed Tweedy Jul 2024 #130

Let's avoid blaming the entire Democratic Party ChicagoRonin Jul 2024 #2

You are right, and I hope they can save us from those fool hardy elements who thought this "asking Biden to step aside" JohnSJ Jul 2024 #14

I call them hand-wringers in my barely polite letters to my senator. CrispyQ Jul 2024 #24

The "Democan'ts"? ChicagoRonin Jul 2024 #66

Sounds good to me! BComplex Jul 2024 #124

Silence is assent dickthegrouch Jul 2024 #88

That's right, the largest majority of Dems are still firmly ridin' with Biden PortTack Jul 2024 #91

#MeToo BoRaGard Jul 2024 #3

That's how I feel! StarryNite Jul 2024 #6

This is how I feel right now! redstatebluegirl Jul 2024 #35

My avatar shows how pissed off I am. BigmanPigman Jul 2024 #112

Like it or not, many in Congress and in the public watched the debate and formed their own opinion. LonePirate Jul 2024 #4

No, that could have be countered, with his travel schedule, he was under the weather etc. Instead some brilliant minds JohnSJ Jul 2024 #9

Travel schedule? He returned from Italy on June 15 for a debate on June 27 with a week of prep time at Camp David. LonePirate Jul 2024 #17

I am not proving anything, what you are saying is let's go JohnSJ Jul 2024 #26

It is not a talking point for people on the left who watched the debate. They are not imagining this. LonePirate Jul 2024 #29

The "people on the left", the progressive caucus, are the ones supporting Biden, the JohnSJ Jul 2024 #62

Biden had a really bad night stopdiggin Jul 2024 #104

That's peachy. What do they expect to accomplish by this circus. Biden is not dropping out, and HE IS GOING TO BE THE JohnSJ Jul 2024 #121

no argument stopdiggin Jul 2024 #143

I understand JohnSJ Jul 2024 #144

Well from a purely PR view Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #150

Really? Tweedy Jul 2024 #37

+++ JohnSJ Jul 2024 #126

Yes he returned from Europe on June 15th and went directly to California MacKasey Jul 2024 #38

How many days after that fundraiser was the debate? 10? 11? LonePirate Jul 2024 #43

You are skipping over the fact that it was one bad night edisdead Jul 2024 #53

Exactly..I guess those that refuse to have our president's back over one bad debate would prefer to push PortTack Jul 2024 #94

Nope. saying that the 'Presidential travel' thing stopdiggin Jul 2024 #110

Do you remember this, where it was, and the date of it? BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #93

You're aslo skipping the fact that his team were WRONG bluestarone Jul 2024 #136

Especially now that Clooney has turned on him too Bayard Jul 2024 #108

No mention Katcat Jul 2024 #44

Smartest thing he ever did. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #51

When your opposition is tearing itself apart, don't interrupt ..... nt kelly1mm Jul 2024 #139

Have you ever crossed 9 time zones in a few days? Tweedy Jul 2024 #48

There was an OP here yesterday about how long it can take to recover niyad Jul 2024 #61

As A Routine International Traveler... ProfessorGAC Jul 2024 #73

I merely pointed out the study that was quoted. And adding, as you niyad Jul 2024 #138

Those 10 days in Camp David... he was still President of the United States. And answerable for Srkdqltr Jul 2024 #101

You forgot the George Clooney fundraiser in LA Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #149

These excuses make the hole deeper rather than filling it in. TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #96

IMO, Biden could use better advisors. CrispyQ Jul 2024 #30

I didn't like him talking about the young woman jimfields33 Jul 2024 #50

I watched the debate Tweedy Jul 2024 #33

"Lying is disqualifying." Tell it to the media... dchill Jul 2024 #64

No doubt about it Tweedy Jul 2024 #100

Luckily, it is a very small minority, certainly NOT many, who are lying to themslves... Think. Again. Jul 2024 #55

NO, STOP. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DEBATE! EastBayGuy Jul 2024 #59

Ok. What's it about then? Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2024 #99

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree - what you are saying about Biden's poor debate performance is true, but PatrickforB Jul 2024 #77

Nicely written. Erda Jul 2024 #148

Unfortunately, these are the images we will see in future GOP ads: JohnnyRingo Jul 2024 #83

Thanks! Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2024 #98

NOBODY ...wants Trump as President in 2025........... Stuart G Jul 2024 #132

People get happy feet Jul 2024 #117

You have 15 recommends for this post, including one from me. Doodley Jul 2024 #142

Yep, democrats should be campaigning against Trump. LisaL Jul 2024 #5

Oligarchs are pressuring them. Time for immunity powers methinks. GreenWave Jul 2024 #7

Well, it's not "us". It is the ASSHOLES, especially BIG MONEY ASSHOLES, doing this. FOR SHAME! Deek1935 Jul 2024 #8

It's sickening. My wife is probably sick of hearing Emile Jul 2024 #10

I agree. texasfiddler Jul 2024 #11

I keep thinking about that quote too! Tweedy Jul 2024 #52

There had better be some heavy-duty backpedaling on the part of certain legislators Ocelot II Jul 2024 #12

And you know they would be fighting non stop if Biden were to actually step aside, LisaL Jul 2024 #13

I only hope those who didn't fall into this trap can pull us out of it. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #18

Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #32

Could you share a little about these old guys? nt Phoenix61 Jul 2024 #46

You know, all those old guys w dementia who have a masterful grasp of global politics. emulatorloo Jul 2024 #75

Honestly Katcat Jul 2024 #47

I'm beginning to wonder Tree Lady Jul 2024 #54

Your anger will pass. I trust Democrats. If they want Joe to be replaced Autumn Jul 2024 #15

I am really ashamed of those so-called leaders coming out pestering Joe to drop out. However, I am proud Walleye Jul 2024 #16

They don't believe he can win, if they believed he coundn't handle the job they would demand he RESIGN krawhitham Jul 2024 #19

This has gone on long enough. Joe either needs to step aside or the entire party needs to get behind him....NOW! beaglelover Jul 2024 #20

All he has to do is set the direction. Baitball Blogger Jul 2024 #22

Again, if Joe were to step aside, that would only result in more fighting. LisaL Jul 2024 #23

I don't think it will lead to as much infighting as you fear. musicblind Jul 2024 #107

We all wish we could put a stop to this nonsense. But...President Biden is doing what he should do PortTack Jul 2024 #102

He already said he's in at least a dozen times. It's the elected dems and media not listening FloridaBlues Jul 2024 #128

From what I hear, the Clintons haven't been silent. Baitball Blogger Jul 2024 #21

It is about the money in my opinion...we have tape recorded evidence...and I believe Adam Schiff has doomed any Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #25

We were on our way to a landslide victory mcar Jul 2024 #27

As indicated by what? People are now whole cloth spinning TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #111

Oh, pardon me, I'm sure mcar Jul 2024 #125

In what way do you feel your opinion was not "allowed" or in any way repressed? TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #134

30 years ago The Bopper Jul 2024 #28

what does *THE* most delicate body part have to do with anything? Skittles Jul 2024 #141

Impotent rage here. redwitch Jul 2024 #31

Agree mamacita75 Jul 2024 #34

MAGAts will be rattling off the names of Dems who wanted him to drop onandup Jul 2024 #42

And Trump's VP choice was comparing Trump to Hitler. LisaL Jul 2024 #45

Of course we can, and are onandup Jul 2024 #49

Me too ramapo Jul 2024 #36

And if Biden were to step down, they will be fighting non stop about who should be replacing him. LisaL Jul 2024 #39

Many of us--if not all--are frustrated, John peggysue2 Jul 2024 #40

that's exactly what President Biden doing. He's a wise savvy politician PortTack Jul 2024 #109

Republicans are cowards.. But Democrats are like cats Across-the-Desk Jul 2024 #56

Agree republianmushroom Jul 2024 #57

If they didn't believe Joe could win, they would not have bothered. 58Sunliner Jul 2024 #58

Yep. cilla4progress Jul 2024 #60

What will they do if he doesn't drop out? A question more for the politicians asking JohnSJ Jul 2024 #69

Thank You for your post Baggies Jul 2024 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #65

That isn't the point. What are they going to do when Biden is the nominee? JohnSJ Jul 2024 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #76

Blame Steve Schmidt New Breed Leader Jul 2024 #67

I suspect there are several people who have come up with this "brilliant" JohnSJ Jul 2024 #81

Actually Schmidt has shifted and is now pushing against JRB, and probably the Dems. He not the whole story PortTack Jul 2024 #105

Why would we follow Schmidt is beyond me. Because he is anti-trump doesn't mean he is pro Democratic JohnSJ Jul 2024 #120

na. They may have hurt their own re-election Roc2020 Jul 2024 #68

The problem isn't Biden voters, or even never trumpets, it is the independents that I think will win or lose the electio JohnSJ Jul 2024 #84

The GOP is like herding sheep, Dan Jul 2024 #72

You can herd cats by opening a can of tuna; they'll come running. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #79

Putin's bdamomma Jul 2024 #74

Nailed it! PortTack Jul 2024 #103

So Putin got to Schiff and Brown? totodeinhere Jul 2024 #114

You really think Putin soandso Jul 2024 #137

"We don't need republicans to hurt us, we are doing quite a good job of it ourselves." DFW Jul 2024 #78

and that is why this situation is so frustrating and infuriating JohnSJ Jul 2024 #86

But why is, oh so predictively, "Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory," even a thing? NBachers Jul 2024 #106

I really wish I could know who to be mad at. bullimiami Jul 2024 #80

We have no choice. roamer65 Jul 2024 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2024 #89

The Democratic Party has the best interests of the American people at heart. musicblind Jul 2024 #85

Just remember who they are and never let them forget it. Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #87

You are preaching to the choir here for sure on that. JohnSJ Jul 2024 #90

Ya those senators and congressional members are mot as smart as us oldmanlynn Jul 2024 #95

Carville... GiqueCee Jul 2024 #97

I agree with you a million times over. Vinca Jul 2024 #113

It genuinely appears as if they want a brokered convention. And it appears on the surface to be led by a contingent Texin Jul 2024 #115

We (on DU) can't get along anymore BunnyMcGee Jul 2024 #116

Bookmarking. rzemanfl Jul 2024 #147

I understand your anger. But, totodeinhere Jul 2024 #118

The establishment Dems are handing the election to Trump Dopers_Greed Jul 2024 #119

Yes, but the longer they keep this garbage going, the only thing it will accomplish is make the poll numbers worse. It JohnSJ Jul 2024 #122

This is the worst I've seen in a long time. alarimer Jul 2024 #123

You and me both. raccoon Jul 2024 #127

I smell rethuglicans and thus Russian influence. Though we have plenty of oligarchs here and they are involved heavily captain queeg Jul 2024 #129

"Never attribute to malice that which Xoan Jul 2024 #131

Whether stupidity or malice means very little if the outcome is the same JohnSJ Jul 2024 #133

Do you want fascism? Because this is how you get fascism. Initech Jul 2024 #135

Well said. mzmolly Jul 2024 #140

"they don't believe he can handle the job" Martin Eden Jul 2024 #145

A Grateful Nation, FeelingBlue Jul 2024 #146

I called Bennett, Hickenloper and Crow, told them Hotler Jul 2024 #151

I called Bennet and Hickenlooper too mountain grammy Jul 2024 #152

I would be mad at the New York Times wolfie001 Jul 2024 #153

First I want to say I will vote for whoever is the democratic nominee TheDemsshouldhireme Jul 2024 #154