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geniph

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Thu Aug 22, 2024, 03:26 PM Aug 2024

The mockery of Gus Walz is almost a caricature of toxic masculinity [View all]

And yes, I'm aware some of the mockery is coming from women, but to me, that just emphasizes my point - they've internalized these ridiculous gender-policing norms, too. The idea that the only emotion it's permissible for a boy or a man to show is anger is where so much of the toxicity comes from. So there are kids right now, watching their parents mock a neurodivergent boy for being so overcome with love and pride for his dad that he cries, and what will those kids take away from this? Must not show genuine love and pride, must not be so filled with emotion that it comes out as TEARS, oh, heavens to Betsy, what would the neighbors think?

When you don't allow people to freely express genuine emotions of love (or grief, or whatever), but you do allow them to freely express anger, when you even encourage the expression of unbridled rage but no other emotion, is it any surprise that all that repressed emotion comes out as violence? Sometimes the violence is directed inward, and those are the ones who commit suicide. Sometimes it's outward, and we've all seen too much of that.

Please don't teach your children not to cry. Teach them how to manage their emotions, yes, but please don't repress their expression altogether. We have had so many generations now with this fucked-up idea that men aren't allowed to cry. Sometimes venting emotion via tears is the most cathartic thing one can do. And I say that as a woman who almost never cries - but I was brought up in a truly fucked-up, repressed-emotion way, too. I know the damage it does.

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Definitely! SheltieLover Aug 2024 #1
Well spoken - astute observation. magicarpet Aug 2024 #2
Almost. It needs much improvement to begin to look like a caricature. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #3
Yes, it speaks to the generation of men raised to believe not giving a shit is the same thing as strength. It isn't. meadowlander Aug 2024 #4
these are people who call themselves CHRISTIAN Skittles Aug 2024 #5
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2024 #6
NOT a "toxic masculinity" issue - The GOP would have treated Walz' daughter the same way were she neurodivergent. PeaceWave Aug 2024 #7
I don't know that I agree that they'd have treated Hope the same way geniph Aug 2024 #24
the GOP DemonGoddess Aug 2024 #8
K n R with.... JoeOtterbein Aug 2024 #9
Thank you! I'm an overly emotional guy and wish I could control showing it erronis Aug 2024 #10
I hate when my voice cracks and shakes geniph Aug 2024 #17
I'll give that a try, altho my voice is in a pretty deep register already... erronis Aug 2024 #19
That kid jumping up and yelling "That's my dad" Demobrat Aug 2024 #11
KnR. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2024 #12
The women who behave that way BaronChocula Aug 2024 #13
A reminder to all those self-proclaimed Christians who ridicule people for crying, especially men: colorado_ufo Aug 2024 #14
MAGA actually stands for Mean Aggressive Gross A**holes. Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #15
The flip side of real men don't cry is real women don't get angry. Phoenix61 Aug 2024 #16
Coach Walz will be the first to tell you - there is both yelling AND crying in football...and in life. PeaceWave Aug 2024 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author BrightKnight Aug 2024 #20
Seeing how much Gus Walz loves his dad Politicub Aug 2024 #21
Not sure toxic masculinity is a useful term but many young men BrightKnight Aug 2024 #22
Let me clarify: I don't think MASCULINITY is toxic geniph Aug 2024 #25
Most men would find the term offensive. Also, if Gus was my brother BrightKnight Aug 2024 #28
The Ancient Romans were about as toxically masculine as one could get. But it was considered okay for a man to cry. Aristus Aug 2024 #23
A lot of the "ethos" of toxic masculinity... regnaD kciN Aug 2024 #26
"Toxic masculinity?" - There were GOP women calling Gus the same nasty things. PeaceWave Aug 2024 #27
LOL geniph Aug 2024 #29
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