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Tue Sep 3, 2024, 07:25 PM Sep 2024

Dear Lord, I hope I'm reading this correctly. [View all]

I've heard from several right-wing outlets that the border will the defining issue for this election. My take is that they are completely underestimting (or intentionally ignoring) the white-hot incandescent rage among women and the men who love them regarding the concerted GOP effort to deny reproductive health care.
I have no doubt that a bunch of GOP incels who have never been within arm's reach of a "woman" that didn't come in the mail, complete with a pump and a repair patch kit, don't give a flying fuck about reproductive freedom and women's health.
But I am hard pressed to believe that those individuals barking at the moon as FOX"news" unveils their traditional election year "the immigrants are coming" campaign will display anything close to the enthusiasm that will be displayed on Election Day by a substantial majority of the American electorate.
As I said, Lord, I hope I'm right.

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Abortion rights. END onecaliberal Sep 2024 #1
They've got every other person saying illegal immigrants get free hotel rooms and meals and veterans sleep in the street Walleye Sep 2024 #2
So all we have to do is convince them that Antarctica is offering the same deal to Americans. Wonder Why Sep 2024 #3
Or Russia, that's where the propaganda comes from Walleye Sep 2024 #39
Make no mistake about it.... anciano Sep 2024 #4
You are correct. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #6
No room for error, fight both issues and more :) nt cliffside Sep 2024 #10
They shot down the bipartisan Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act Shermann Sep 2024 #5
the rs have been beating the immigration thing before eisenhower . time to give it a rest and stop beating a dead horse AllaN01Bear Sep 2024 #7
Good luck convincing Repubs of that! ShazzieB Sep 2024 #19
The vitriol happened WAY, WAY before Eisenhower.... AZ8theist Sep 2024 #72
ding. thanks for this . esp your last paragraph. well thought. AllaN01Bear Sep 2024 #73
One of the worst political moves Trump made was the undoing of a popular border bill. lees1975 Sep 2024 #8
He was in a pinch either way. Either be an idiot hypocrite or be an idiot with about nothing to campaign on. TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #66
That's their effort to define the election ahead of time Buns_of_Fire Sep 2024 #9
You raise an interesting point... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2024 #12
Start here... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #13
Post removed Post removed Sep 2024 #14
Yeah, trump also claimed he had 106,000 followers at his N.J rally a few months ago... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #17
Mirt obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #15
Thank you. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #18
Oh dear, did I miss another troll? niyad Sep 2024 #22
Yes obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #30
ahhh, but of course. niyad Sep 2024 #35
If you're reading this as a minority of white males trying to enslave all women Warpy Sep 2024 #16
They want to enslave them because it's the only way they'd ever have one. malthaussen Sep 2024 #45
I don't imagine your average MAGA believes that a viable border solution was in the works captain queeg Sep 2024 #55
Those assholes don't truly believe anything except TFG is their god anointed king Warpy Sep 2024 #60
The Pharisees. Yep he kicked them out of the temple. captain queeg Sep 2024 #61
They don't give a crap what the truth is. TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #76
Saw a story today which combines both issues in a way - soldierant Sep 2024 #20
The border is not the number 1 issue Diraven Sep 2024 #21
Bingo. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #42
That felon bdamomma Sep 2024 #70
Even selfish men should care about abortion wryter2000 Sep 2024 #23
As the system stands, it is "especially" not "even" -- but of course RockRaven Sep 2024 #27
The thing is, I believe the laws would change and no man would pay child support. Why should he? mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #40
Imagine women getting probed at the borders of Southern States ecstatic Sep 2024 #24
They wish. We'll see what the Masses Cha Sep 2024 #25
Democrats have overperformed in EVERY election since the Dobbs decision came down. JoetheShow Sep 2024 #26
Unfortunately Metaphorical Sep 2024 #34
And they're still fighting Joe Biden. usonian Sep 2024 #28
Trump is the feeble old man, now Meadowoak Sep 2024 #54
and bdamomma Sep 2024 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #29
Apparently trump wasted a fortune on the boarder Klarkashton Sep 2024 #31
POLLING SAYS THAT THE ECONOMY AND IMMIGRATION ARE #1-2 WarGamer Sep 2024 #32
Just saw a poll the other day SomedayKindaLove Sep 2024 #67
not quite WarGamer Sep 2024 #71
I stand corrected SomedayKindaLove Sep 2024 #77
I live a hundred yards from the Mexican border. Scruffy1 Sep 2024 #33
Because it's a manufactured problem. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #36
Immigration is the second most important issue to voters LeftInTX Sep 2024 #37
Which voters though? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #41
Are they only polling right wingers? LeftInTX Sep 2024 #43
A poll of "likely voters" is going to give... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #46
Likely voters are people who have a history of voting. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #47
rightwingers that have a history of voting... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #48
Polls include both left, right, in-between etc. All persuasions. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #49
We should be polling specific subsets of the voting population... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #50
Those are internal polls by the party and are generally not released to the public. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #51
oh, so the "likely voter" poll is just political entertainment. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #52
They're public non-partisan polls. Likely voters are also included in internal polling. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #53
yeah, useless, just clickbait. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #58
Trump does not have a leg to stand on regarding the border Martin Eden Sep 2024 #38
It will be the big issue... for the media and the politicians. malthaussen Sep 2024 #44
No, the defining issue will be abortion. Initech Sep 2024 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #74
I just saw a poll of Gen Z & the three top issues they were concerned with were, CrispyQ Sep 2024 #57
I saw that too. Now they need to vote! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #59
Remind me what is gen Z? (Ages) captain queeg Sep 2024 #62
Gen Z, born 1997-2012, aka Zoomers. CrispyQ Sep 2024 #63
That's still some prime reproductive years. I'm a little surprised abortion wasn't higher on the list. captain queeg Sep 2024 #64
I agree you are right. recovering_democrat Sep 2024 #65
Happy Immigrant Caravans Day everybody! DJ Porkchop Sep 2024 #69
Why not two defining issues - women's autonomy over our own bodies AND securing the border Kashkakat v.2.0 Sep 2024 #75
I haven't seen any "immigrants" around here lately, Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #78
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