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Self Esteem

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48. This just isn't true.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 11:24 AM
Sep 2024

Crosstabs have a higher MOE than traditional polling. So high in fact, that if polling generally had equal MOE as crosstabs, it would be considered unreliable.

But to your point: if Harris was only losing the white vote by ten, her polling margins would be much better than they are right now.

Take the most recent Emerson poll that has her doing about the same among white voters as Biden.

The point is that crosstabs should be taken with a grain of salt.

It's also important to understand that white support also varies depending on the state.

Biden lost white voters by 17 nationally in 2020 but in Pennsylvania, he did two-points better and "only" lost them by fifteen.

In Wisconsin, he only lost white voters by six points.

I don't see Harris doing better than 6 points in Wisconsin. I just don't.

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Montana polls [View all] Polybius Sep 2024 OP
Tester has led a charmed electoral life... that may end. WarGamer Sep 2024 #1
If the IDIOTS that vote for any con want to destroy the country and the planet, I suppose Eliot Rosewater Sep 2024 #2
He's probably in real trouble. bearsfootball516 Sep 2024 #3
Then we need to pick up a Republican-held seat, since we are losing WV Polybius Sep 2024 #4
The Senate is going to be a problem in the next decade. Ace Rothstein Sep 2024 #16
I'm optimistic that here in Wisconsin the next time Johnson seat comes up again... yourout Sep 2024 #29
Yeah.... should have won it last time, Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #31
I think Tester will probably win because of abortion ColinC Sep 2024 #5
Definitely don't think he'll probably win. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #7
Pollling is a useful barometer for getting a snapshot on the direction of the race ColinC Sep 2024 #11
No. But we don't know the fundamentals in Montana. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #14
2020 was special ColinC Sep 2024 #19
I think you're overestimating her popularity with white males Polybius Sep 2024 #20
Montana aside, she's doing pretty well among whites ColinC Sep 2024 #23
Crosstabs are not accurate. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #26
Cross tabs are as accurate as any other polling ColinC Sep 2024 #39
This just isn't true. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #48
Fair enough. ColinC Sep 2024 #50
Tester absolutely is in trouble. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #6
Too much weight put on polls. 2naSalit Sep 2024 #37
You think polls in Montana... 2naSalit Sep 2024 #8
No chance Polybius Sep 2024 #21
I hope... 2naSalit Sep 2024 #24
I hope I'm wrong too, but you are free to bookmark Polybius Sep 2024 #52
Testor might win, hopefully, but he has NEVER Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #32
Are you a Montana voter? 2naSalit Sep 2024 #33
I'm a Texas voter... LeftInTX Sep 2024 #56
TestER. 2naSalit Sep 2024 #36
gonna donate again and spread the story and link....thankyou DoBW Sep 2024 #40
Montana women don't mind losing freedoms? No. pwb Sep 2024 #9
GOP women get abortions too... they can vote pro choice but vote RED on the ticket. WarGamer Sep 2024 #25
That does not make any sense. Why would a women pwb Sep 2024 #44
It's not. Just go look at the exit polls from Ohio's 2022 senate race. Self Esteem Sep 2024 #49
that's happened in EVERY state that's had it on the ballot. WarGamer Sep 2024 #51
Snort! 2naSalit Sep 2024 #10
This is an AARP survey? I wonder how accurate it is with those under 50. TheBlackAdder Sep 2024 #12
What was the actul samle size? 2naSalit Sep 2024 #35
I just sent some $$$ - he really deserves re-election v. GOP carpetbagger. 617Blue Sep 2024 #13
Both seem to be outliers JCMach1 Sep 2024 #15
Both? Polybius Sep 2024 #53
Reproductive rights made it on the ballot in Montana, yah? notroot Sep 2024 #17
Heavily oversampled age 50 and over Mysterian Sep 2024 #18
No need Polybius Sep 2024 #22
Harris has about a 1% chance to win Montana and that is being.. DemocratInPa Sep 2024 #27
100% trump? 2naSalit Sep 2024 #34
and.. DemocratInPa Sep 2024 #45
Are you truly sad? Lol. 617Blue Sep 2024 #43
what did I say wrong? DemocratInPa Sep 2024 #46
Isn't Sheehy the one that lied to rangers about a self inflicted gun shot wound? Bev54 Sep 2024 #28
I don't think anyone is writing him off, but reality says he is in trouble. Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #30
Just look at how much... 2naSalit Sep 2024 #38
I hope he wins. I don't think we hold the Senate without him. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #41
Montana is a disaster kansasobama Sep 2024 #42
It used to vote Democratic Polybius Sep 2024 #55
Tester is probably a loss Trenzalore Sep 2024 #47
It's possible Polybius Sep 2024 #54
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