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Self Esteem

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33. They won't even if they do try.

Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:49 PM

Oct 2

And this is the problem of your argument. What is trying? One stop in each state? Texas is huge. Does anyone really think one stop in Texas is going to suddenly take Harris from -5 in the polls, to a tie or the lead?

Or is trying meaning multiple stops in the state? It becomes a time and money hole.

I'll put it this way: there's a reason Harris has zero stops planned for her and Walz in these states. It's not that they don't want to try, it's that they know they can't afford to divert resources away from every other swing state that is a true toss-up at this point for states that their internal polls show they're losing.

If these were toss-ups, I'd agree. But they're not.

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Poll: Should the Harris/Walz campaign make stops in Ohio, Florida, and Texas? [View all] ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2 OP

and Indiana too. Emile Oct 2 #1

IN is out of reach pstokely Oct 2 #37

No. They're not going to win those states. Self Esteem Oct 2 #2

They said the same to Obama and he won Indiana. Emile Oct 2 #5

Not remotely comparable. Self Esteem Oct 2 #9

Indiana in 2008 and Indiana in 2024 aren't even in the same stratosphere unfortunately. bearsfootball516 Oct 2 #11

It would also needlessly divert (much more limited) Republican resources to defend those states. Doodley Oct 2 #10

Not worth it. Self Esteem Oct 2 #18

They won't if they don't try, that's for sure. TX is all a matter of voter turnout. HelpImSurrounded Oct 2 #29

They won't even if they do try. Self Esteem Oct 2 #33

They may help down ticket candidates Kaleva Oct 2 #46

Sure. But that doesn't help much if Harris loses. Self Esteem Oct 2 #47

Take it to them everywhere. We keep hearing displacedvermoter Oct 2 #3

If a break is needed from swing States and the visits help down ticket close races (Senate and House), absolutely Freethinker65 Oct 2 #4

OH no, FL and TX maybe qazplm135 Oct 2 #6

Yes, Springfield, Ohio should be the first stop. lees1975 Oct 2 #7

Any national campaign should make a case in all 50 states. Qutzupalotl Oct 2 #8

Definitely Florida LostOne4Ever Oct 2 #12

Why not? sarisataka Oct 2 #13

Why not? Because there isn't an infinite amount of days. Self Esteem Oct 2 #22

Who said anything about the last week of the campaign sarisataka Oct 2 #24

It's not worth it. Self Esteem Oct 2 #25

I am so glad I have you to splain it to me sarisataka Oct 2 #28

I don't know what any of that has to do with my point. Self Esteem Oct 2 #31

You are saying it is close, while others say it is a done deal sarisataka Oct 2 #34

Sometimes you don't get to pick your battles. Self Esteem Oct 2 #43

Not at this point JI7 Oct 2 #14

Campaign stops no, ad buys yes DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2 #15

Live in Florida and see Harris national spots on cable and network NCDem47 Oct 2 #27

what makes u think they wont? mopinko Oct 2 #16

They're not gonna hold a rally in any of these states. Self Esteem Oct 2 #23

and your source on this is- trust me bro? mopinko Oct 2 #42

What's your source? Self Esteem Oct 2 #44

You gonna be president of all 20 states? Campaign in all 50. intheflow Oct 2 #17

You can't win if you don't play. Kid Berwyn Oct 2 #19

There are many Americans and Democrats in Ohio, Florida and Texas as well as independents and new voters. PufPuf23 Oct 2 #20

I trust their judgement enough to not second-guess our candidates or their campaign staff. Oopsie Daisy Oct 2 #21

Florida Yes, Texas No, Ohio only if Sen Brown's campaign wants it bucolic_frolic Oct 2 #26

Yes, but only if they live in the same fantasy world as those who think those states are winnable Prairie Gates Oct 2 #30

My question is kacekwl Oct 2 #32

Texas and Florida senate seats are important too Johonny Oct 2 #35

I think a joint Harris/Allred appearance would really assist Torchlight Oct 2 #36

Make the bastards defend, gibraltar72 Oct 2 #38

Absolutely! DFW Oct 2 #39

It is October kansasobama Oct 2 #40

and stop in St Petersburg FL onethatcares Oct 2 #41

Yes, especially if it can help put some wind in the sails of Senate candidates. TheKentuckian Oct 2 #45