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Lonestarblue

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78. So many innocent people would be hurt with such a tactic.

Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:07 AM

Oct 13

If Trump wins and starts deporting all undocumented workers, the economy will crash anyway because those workers are a part of several supply chains, including the food industry. Given our low unemployment, there are not enough able-bodied people to take those jobs. Inflation will soar, and people on fixed incomes will be hurt the most.

The OP asks what we should do if Trump wins. I think we should look to our finances, especially if we are retired, as I am. I lived through the losses of the Republican Great Recession in 2008 and saw my 401k lose half its value. I was still working and contributing, though, and did not have to rely on my savings to live. That’s no longer the case, and I am convinced that the economy will tank within months of Trump’s inauguration if he wins, so I will most likely start cashing out some investments in November so I can protect the savings I will need to live on. Inflation will certainly affect the value of that cash, but if the stock market crashes, there won’t be much left. I really believe we could have another Great Depression if Trump wins because his economic plans are a disaster. Add the firing of 50,000 career government workers, the deportation of undocumented workers, and the chaos of a government that no longer functions, and we have a recipe for economic catastrophe.

I remain optimistic that Harris will win, but I’m also thinking how to protect my financial ability to live.

I’m editing my post to add another thought. If you are in a group that might be vulnerable to Trump and Christian Nationalist plans, you might consider getting a passport now if you do not have one. For example, if Trump wins and government workers are fired, getting a passport later might be impossible. And when Stephen Miller starts arresting Hispanics and Haitians for deportation, he and ICE will not bother to check whether some are US citizens. My passport is good for more than a year, but I plan to renew it in November.

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Worst case, Trump wins. Then what? [View all] qwlauren35 Oct 12 OP

I don't want to give "voice" or "written comment" to what could happen in a worst case scenario... hlthe2b Oct 12 #1

Their concerns are valid. Trump hasn't minced words regarding his intentions. PeaceWave Oct 12 #65

Open season on women, too GenThePerservering Oct 12 #2

Yes, very important that we stick together. wnylib Oct 12 #8

WOW. Forgot women. qwlauren35 Oct 12 #10

We adapt as we did with COVID. Keepthesoulalive Oct 12 #3

Agree DeepWinter Oct 13 #95

A trump victory will set us further behind, but we'll survive and be better in future. But, I don't want to test theory. Silent Type Oct 12 #4

I wish I thought it would just be as trivial as that. Think. Again. Oct 12 #39

A lot of people won't survive Prairie Gates Oct 12 #48

OK, every Democrat is going to die a miserable, painful, long death in first few days. Is that good for you? Silent Type Oct 12 #56

A silly attempt at a strawman Prairie Gates Oct 12 #57

Why waste my good stuff on defending what you call a "delusional post." Silent Type Oct 12 #58

Indeed Prairie Gates Oct 12 #60

Well, we could possibly... oldsoldierfadingfast Oct 12 #5

Yep. MLF1981 Oct 12 #9

It would be difficult to just sit back when our maga neighbors are shooting through our windows. Think. Again. Oct 12 #40

We have that in the outskirts of our area a lot. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 13 #96

This really scares me. OnionPatch Oct 13 #108

Me too. I've considered getting out of town around the election just to be cautious. Think. Again. Oct 13 #110

We've thought about it, too. OnionPatch Oct 13 #114

Where would you go though? PeaceWave Oct 14 #127

Me also, not a prepper per se but am Prairie_Seagull Oct 14 #124

I think that would happen within the Island Blue Oct 13 #104

If he wins, he won't be POTUS long Jerry2144 Oct 12 #6

100 %. His time is very limited chicoescuela Oct 12 #17

I was thinking COuch HUmper Jerry2144 Oct 12 #20

The country goes to hell. There is no recovery from a thing like this. NT mahatmakanejeeves Oct 12 #7

Yep Cosmocat Oct 13 #100

With him and this crappy SC Dem4life1234 Oct 13 #115

I plan to join the resistance. nt leftyladyfrommo Oct 12 #11

We crash the economy PikaBlue Oct 12 #12

Not going to pay the freaking tariffs if I can help it. tetedur Oct 12 #19

armed resistance? Is this AR15.com or DU??? WarGamer Oct 12 #28

I'm not advocating armed resistance PikaBlue Oct 12 #42

I DO advocate armed resistence GenThePerservering Oct 12 #66

I agree, a strong general strike would make the corporations remove him quickly. Think. Again. Oct 12 #41

There are ways to charge fees for using and not using your money. BadgerKid Oct 13 #68

So many innocent people would be hurt with such a tactic. Lonestarblue Oct 13 #78

He's not gonna deport US citizens. LeftInTX Oct 14 #122

Not doing these things puts many people out of work AKwannabe Oct 13 #117

Some Dem herds might need to move? SomedayKindaLove Oct 12 #13

We never talk to each other on Democratic Underground again. It will be gone. BamaRefugee Oct 12 #14

The internet is as leaky as an old bucket GenThePerservering Oct 12 #22

They can turn the internet off like a faucet, to keep your moisture metaphor going. BamaRefugee Oct 12 #33

I lost my original name here I_UndergroundPanther Oct 13 #94

Sorry but that's some 90s era cyber libertarian nonsense Prairie Gates Oct 12 #50

Agreed...this board will be gone witjin six months Prairie Gates Oct 12 #49

The very problem of regressive regimes fragmenting GenThePerservering Oct 12 #67

It's been open season on women since the Trump Court was confirmed CousinIT Oct 12 #15

We will be ok Abstractartist Oct 12 #16

I don't think you fully realize... Think. Again. Oct 12 #43

I actually do Abstractartist Oct 13 #80

mid-term elections would be a pipe dream. TBF Oct 13 #97

I agree MFM008 Oct 14 #125

"We'll be OK," then lists all those who won't Prairie Gates Oct 12 #51

Correct Abstractartist Oct 13 #81

The people less worse off than others will feel privileged. Oneironaut Oct 13 #83

This Oneironaut Oct 13 #82

If he wins, he cheated. lees1975 Oct 12 #18

the polls are close in the tossup states so neither side can claim that one side has to win or lose sciencescience Oct 13 #89

I wouldn't want to be Jack Smith if Trump wins... WarGamer Oct 12 #21

Yes, and once he tastes blood, he won't stop. Think. Again. Oct 12 #44

And the rabid cries for more blood from his cult misanthrope Oct 12 #52

He will lose and I am sick of this shit so will ignore this and other posts like this. Demsrule86 Oct 12 #23

In a fair election he would lose, lose bigly yaesu Oct 12 #25

so will be true to our stated belief in...democratic outcomes or not? then let the resistance being nt msongs Oct 12 #24

I tell my family to keep an eye on me RandySF Oct 12 #26

I don't think it will happen Metaphorical Oct 12 #27

The House does not vote for Harris. bottomofthehill Oct 13 #85

In no universe does Trump ever win. C_U_L8R Oct 12 #29

I scream claudette Oct 12 #30

Worst case scenario, Trump gets elected, drops dead in a year and JD Vance is sworn in as the 48 President. Fla Dem Oct 12 #31

Trump will lose..n/t asuhornets Oct 12 #32

Then, we're fucked. Supreme Court and lower courts are gone for the next 30 years. In It to Win It Oct 12 #34

Prepare to fight the descent to the dark ages. It will be open season on Democrats and Liberals DSandra Oct 12 #35

Nullification / non-enforcement at state and local levels Amishman Oct 12 #36

Worst Case is Coup, or Project 2025 Policy That Acts Like Genocide on Americans RTT Oct 12 #37

Oh boy...The Knights of Malta? That's some weird wild stuff right there. tritsofme Oct 13 #72

Undisputed Articles, FB Pages, Websites Are Not Disinformation, Nonsense Or Conspiracy Theories RTT Oct 13 #111

But is it cause or effect? carpetbagger Oct 13 #116

I see American Assoc. for the Advancement of Science Being Different Than a Mercenary Paramilitary RTT Oct 14 #128

Best case: Kamala wins Blue Owl Oct 12 #38

We really did have everything, didn't we? Tommy Carcetti Oct 12 #45

Perfect scene to end the movie. What's more more important than a nice meal, conversation, friends and betsuni Oct 13 #69

I doubt I would live long if Trump wins. Doodley Oct 12 #46

I doubt Trump would live long if Trump wins DFW Oct 13 #70

Think great depression only less fun Johonny Oct 12 #47

I would pray for a hero, someone who 'has a vision' Jack Valentino Oct 12 #53

The Project 2025 crew will pressure the cabinet to 25th amendment him, valleyrogue Oct 12 #54

Oh you know that's coming. Initech Oct 12 #62

We stay around, and get to work. Groundhawg Oct 12 #55

Doing what? Initech Oct 12 #64

What do you mean by "as George Carlin said, we don't have time for rational solutions!"? betsuni Oct 13 #75

The message sent would be horrific. Quiet Em Oct 12 #59

What if he wins and he and Fox control all 3 branches of government. Initech Oct 12 #61

I can't let myself go there Tree Lady Oct 12 #63

Infighting, chaos. Who'd be in charge? Who's the power? All the wealthier than average Trump voters betsuni Oct 13 #71

You get up the next day and do your best to defend the rights of others MistakenLamb Oct 13 #73

Yes. betsuni Oct 13 #74

It will be open season on all of us who have posted on this site... JT45242 Oct 13 #76

How, though? U.S. military? Why? betsuni Oct 13 #77

frankly RJ_MacReady Oct 13 #79

If the worst comes to the worst anamnua Oct 13 #84

Trump is just a symptom - TBF Oct 13 #98

tcf will not win, but he very certainly can steal the election or start a civil war, think that's really what he wants. lark Oct 13 #86

Violence would only bring more severe retribution Martin Eden Oct 13 #87

The West Coast secedes tinrobot Oct 13 #88

We don't know what Republicans would actually do. Hopefully our Democratic leaders have several contingency plans. sciencescience Oct 13 #90

Garland and his family leaves the country for some place nice, sunny, safe and free. Hotler Oct 13 #91

Then we go Gavin 2028 Polybius Oct 13 #92

You are assuming there would be further elections - very naive. nt TBF Oct 13 #99

I am pretty sure there will be elections. totodeinhere Oct 13 #107

And you're convinced there will still be a democratic party? Again, naive. nt TBF Oct 13 #112

I didn't say they will still be a Democratic Party. totodeinhere Oct 13 #120

This is minimization of what Trump is capable of TBF Oct 14 #123

We have to keep fighting however we can. D23MIURG23 Oct 13 #93

Then the American Democratic experience takes a really odd turn. bottomofthehill Oct 13 #101

We sell you to the highest bidder. LuvLoogie Oct 13 #102

Underground Railroad RT Atlanta Oct 13 #103

If he wins then we continue the fight by all legal means necessary. totodeinhere Oct 13 #105

No federal aid to urban areas nor blue States. Freethinker65 Oct 13 #106

It's possible that what he really wants to do is pardon himself Klarkashton Oct 13 #109

Marry a Canadian SocialDemocrat61 Oct 13 #113

Not to gloat, but my girlfriend is from Newfoundland. carpetbagger Oct 13 #119

That is a gloat but congratulations! I'm jealous. walkingman Oct 14 #126

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We wait ForgedCrank Oct 13 #121