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RedSpartan

(1,766 posts) Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:40 PM Nov 8

The war is over, and we lost. [View all]

We may win a battle here or there going forward, but that's it. They won the war and will hold power over us for generations.

How? The courts.

Set aside the fact that, demographically, it looks like Democrats won't be able to come back from this. Trump is going to spend the next four years (at least) completing his stacking of the federal courts. The vast majority of the judges on our courts for the next 40 or 50 years will be MAGA.

And so even if the Democrats do make a comeback, and even if they are able to pass any type of progressive legislation -- be it environmental protections, civil rights, healthcare, you name it -- these MAGA judges will strike it down as "unconstitutional" for most of the remaining century. All while giving their stamp of approval to anything and everything the Cult of Trump does.

Tuesday night was a political Hiroshima. It was a blow we won't be able to recover from. Don't fool yourself, like so many of us have the past decade. There's no real chance of success after this.

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The war is over, and we lost. [View all] RedSpartan Nov 8 OP

All True SoCalDavidS Nov 8 #1

The left can't unite and now has lost the country DSandra Nov 8 #2

It gets me Dem4life1234 Nov 8 #43

That's kind of what happens in war throughout history... DSandra Nov 9 #85

Exactly Ollie Garkie Nov 9 #90

This is it exactly. It can't be more obvious that the RW will Nixie Nov 9 #92

Wow! fantase56 Nov 8 #3

LOL Skittles Nov 8 #8

Enjoy your desperate fear. I'll live or die with hope fantase56 Nov 8 #57

I LIVE IN REALITY Skittles Nov 8 #58

Arrrrrgh, we're all gonna die!!! fantase56 Nov 8 #63

prime example right there Skittles Nov 8 #70

Is that a flounce? nt GenThePerservering Nov 9 #93

There's a lot of woe in the air right now BannonsLiver Nov 9 #96

I agree Pototan Nov 8 #65

Yeah good luck with that 0rganism Nov 8 #23

They'll continue to give democracy lip service Colgate 64 Nov 8 #50

it kills me Skittles Nov 8 #59

What csn we do about it besides leave? LeftInTX Nov 8 #73

I think the point is Pototan Nov 9 #82

We had an interesting thing happen here LeftInTX Nov 9 #83

And the National Firefighters Union made no endorsement for President this year Pototan Nov 9 #84

Hey! It's all I got. They run the place and not for the best LeftInTX Nov 9 #86

My suggestion? Pototan Nov 9 #87

This uponit7771 Nov 8 #28

It seems Colgate 64 Nov 8 #49

Yup, and to the victors goes the spoils. republianmushroom Nov 8 #4

Victor's dupporters enid602 Nov 8 #12

The victors are high ranking republican politicians and big business. republianmushroom Nov 8 #14

I will never count out We the People. pat_k Nov 8 #5

Thank you...I am going to trash the OP. Unless you have a crystal ball you don't know that. The pendulum will swing PortTack Nov 8 #11

Precisely PortTack... That's what Cha Nov 8 #13

Thank you Cha!! flamingdem Nov 8 #18

Hugs to you, flamingdem.. Hugs to Us! 💙💙 Cha Nov 8 #20

Hear, Hear! And we need to ... pat_k Nov 8 #24

Mahalo, pat.. Excellent Suggestions for Cha Nov 8 #39

Dang. Fixed link. pat_k Nov 8 #40

Thank You! "Lobbying For Change"! Cha Nov 8 #53

Thank you for this post Dem4life1234 Nov 8 #44

Since posting I fixed the link pat_k Nov 8 #66

Thank you! I don't have Quixote as my user name for nothing. nt Quixote1818 Nov 8 #41

Ya, the pendulum will swing back in the Supreme Court Pototan Nov 8 #76

I will never roll over and will never give up Tribetime Nov 8 #35

On the one hand We the People are the ones who got us in this mess. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 8 #36

The future is never set pat_k Nov 8 #38

The "mighty force" seems Colgate 64 Nov 8 #51

We're mourning and need to heal pat_k Nov 8 #72

That's what they want you to think. NEOBuckeye Nov 8 #6

Lost? LiberaBlueDem Nov 8 #7

Agreed. I don't see a path back to a senate majority in 2026. We don't have 4 flippable seats on the map In It to Win It Nov 8 #9

Citizen action and empowerment means more than elections. pat_k Nov 8 #26

"We are alone... We are utterly alone." Oopsie Daisy Nov 8 #10

Agree. Hate Won. Bread and Circuses Nov 8 #15

You are mourning and exhausted. pat_k Nov 8 #32

Go ahead and give up. Elessar Zappa Nov 8 #16

Except they won by lying. And the next four years will expose those lies. meadowlander Nov 8 #17

Agree. Plus Chump is not long for this world flamingdem Nov 8 #19

This was much needed to hear Dem4life1234 Nov 8 #45

They didn't win by lying, although Colgate 64 Nov 8 #55

Kind of related post pat_k Nov 8 #77

It isn't quite as bad as you are thinking though you are far from wrong TheKentuckian Nov 8 #21

Jokes on them the climate may really collapse any summer now IbogaProject Nov 8 #22

Interesting. cachukis Nov 8 #30

Impending climate disaster is unavoidable regardless of what Party is in power Ponietz Nov 8 #74

The war is over, but not the conflict. DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 8 #25

Can only hope the coming crash is enough to.. yourout Nov 8 #27

Every Republican president in my lifetime has crashed the economy, to be replaced by a Dem who fixed it. SunSeeker Nov 8 #78

Old guy and may not make it to next round but I'm not giving up... wcmagumba Nov 8 #29

Shit, wish I could be like you. If I only had a brain I would dance and be happy. DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 8 #33

it's just life... stillcool Nov 8 #31

They will wreck the economy as usual. Rhiagel Nov 8 #34

Back during the early 1900's the Rs dominated LostOne4Ever Nov 8 #37

The Civil War never ended. Du916 Nov 8 #42

Wow, no, this is horrible assessment angrychair Nov 8 #46

Losing the courts won't last just two years, unless you can find 4 seats we can flip in Senate for 2026 In It to Win It Nov 8 #52

No angrychair Nov 8 #67

Have you seen the 2026 senate map?... You're talking about the judicial vacancies that exist now. In It to Win It Nov 8 #75

Look angrychair Nov 9 #81

It's not only the Democrats who have lost it's also StarryNite Nov 8 #47

It's not only the Democrats who have lost it's also StarryNite Nov 8 #48

Nope. Pinback Nov 8 #54

Trump appointed 220 and Biden 213 through Nov 1 in year 4 confoosed Nov 8 #56

The war is not over. oldmanlynn Nov 8 #60

I think we need to learn how to fight first. hadEnuf Nov 8 #68

The war has just begun orangecrush Nov 8 #61

I totally agree Pototan Nov 8 #62

The battle is over but not the war its not over till we say its over Tribetime Nov 8 #64

When in trouble or in doubt fantase56 Nov 8 #69

No vercetti2021 Nov 8 #71

The election is over, but not the struggle iemanja Nov 8 #79

Watching the exponential growth of the alternate reality of social media NoMoreRepugs Nov 9 #80

WE DIDN'T LOSE Skittles Nov 9 #88

"Tuesday night was a political Hiroshima. It was a blow we won't be able to recover from." JoseBalow Nov 9 #89

This is the dumbest post Blue_Roses Nov 9 #91

With a population who prefers GenThePerservering Nov 9 #94

The give up mentality and your screen name are deeply ironic. BannonsLiver Nov 9 #95

Are you peddling fascist propaganda? Are you preaching DUer's to give up? This is like a QB getting sacked Hotler Nov 9 #97

The biggest threat to the United States isn't Al Qaeda or the Taliban. It's the Heritage Foundation. Initech Nov 9 #98