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In It to Win It

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176. Unfortunately, we were put in a position where she was the most convenient option
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:35 AM
Nov 2024

She was the only person that didn't have to start from scratch 100 days out from the election. She was the only person that could have inherited the campaign funds and infrastructure. Unfortunately for us, that was the predicament we were in at the time.

In the moment, going with her was the most efficient option we had, and she was the option we could mobilize the quickest without party infighting.

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Sorry, Nancy. I disagree. RandySF Nov 2024 #1
In retrospect I agree with Pelosi Du916 Nov 2024 #52
If there had been an open primary? MattBaggins Nov 2024 #62
Maybe roscoeroscoe Nov 2024 #66
"If Harris were pushed aside for yet another old white guy" ?? Dumpy Nov 2024 #101
Unfortunately, they said what they meant, Abolishinist Nov 2024 #133
what is meaning of WYPIPO orleans Nov 2024 #185
Phonetic spelling of "white people" in African American Vernacular English. Abolishinist Nov 2024 #195
Yoga pants are uniform in East Central Florida. rubbersole Nov 2024 #205
I imagine those will go out of style at some point... Montauk6 Nov 2024 #208
Lol rubbersole Diamond_Dog Nov 2024 #251
I'm white...and i season my food. What category do i fall into? Buckeyeblue Nov 2024 #281
Funny, I have posts with the "word" in the subject line go automatically to trash here. phylny Nov 2024 #294
It would have been seen MattBaggins Nov 2024 #171
Not "pushed aside" Shrek Nov 2024 #234
white guys is all we will get from now on Skittles Nov 2024 #189
Women will never be qualified enough, politically astute, educated or smart enough to be elected President of the US! akbacchus_BC Nov 2024 #242
Other than wild speculation, what's your evidence for that? Orrex Nov 2024 #288
Did he really say that, though? moose65 Nov 2024 #82
2020 Du916 Nov 2024 #94
Hmmmm moose65 Nov 2024 #107
Agreed Du916 Nov 2024 #118
That was being floated around, PatSeg Nov 2024 #175
Sorry, you need produce a direct quote from Biden. "Advisors" don't count. emulatorloo Nov 2024 #303
He said he'd consider the possibility of one term MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #192
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #129
Hindsight is 20:20 Du916 Nov 2024 #163
Sharp decline my ass. You sound like a hater. Joe is still a sharp, intelligent man. Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #165
Very true. LisaL Nov 2024 #183
If he'd had such a sharp decline; then why did he sound fine at the event After the debate electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #186
The over-reaction was just ridiculous. Biden had a really bad cold, I wish his staff had just rescheduled the debate. emulatorloo Nov 2024 #302
Heh I didn't need any reminding! 😄😑 electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #317
... emulatorloo Nov 2024 #318
I think the poster was referring to debating and taking live questions Polybius Nov 2024 #307
You might be right electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #316
I don't think Kamala was the problem so much as MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #199
AM radio for Dems has been discussed since the late 1990s Captain Zero Nov 2024 #212
Rush Limbaugh has been dead for over 3 and a half years MichMan Nov 2024 #243
They don't need Rush BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #297
Neither of which have anything to do with AM radio. MichMan Nov 2024 #300
That's yesterdays news too. BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #319
Al Franken tried it but it failed financially. Still MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #277
+1 pat_k Nov 2024 #206
You may be right about the lack of time. AlanAdam Nov 2024 #223
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Dems don't know how to play the game Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #4
The issue is that hat Rethugs play dirty Farmgirl1961 Nov 2024 #15
My mom (rip) partly grew up in a sort of tough neighborhood in NYC... electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #190
Some Dems know how to play dirty inside their camp but Skya Rhen Nov 2024 #299
THIS onecaliberal Nov 2024 #254
I admire Speaker Pelosi tremendously but I think she should not have spooky3 Nov 2024 #5
And not now Lulu KC Nov 2024 #75
Agree. Kind of strange. She's smart, been around. etc electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #188
She may have passed her expiration date... Hope22 Nov 2024 #194
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Just wow MustLoveBeagles Nov 2024 #7
And that is what pisses me the hell off Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #18
That's disappointing. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #8
Thanks for nothing! BluenFLA Nov 2024 #9
"Nancy Pelosi" texted me a couple of times... Alephy Nov 2024 #10
Foolish! They are succeeding in having us eat our own. Jit423 Nov 2024 #11
Maybe Woodwizard Nov 2024 #12
This is getting insane. ananda Nov 2024 #13
I'll say MustLoveBeagles Nov 2024 #16
it definitely doesn't help, and she's had a successful enough career that she should hold her tongue cadoman Nov 2024 #79
Well said. nt akbacchus_BC Nov 2024 #245
Biden should have never sought reelection, but after his late exit we were basically stuck with Harris. tritsofme Nov 2024 #14
Even if we couldn't have a primary due to time, we still had last cycles results to fall back to. Lancero Nov 2024 #74
Biden ran away with 2020, it was barely ever a competitive race, it was over after South Carolina. tritsofme Nov 2024 #83
Not asking about President. Asking about potential picks for VP's. Lancero Nov 2024 #96
I think Harris was a fine vice president and helped the ticket in 2020. tritsofme Nov 2024 #217
I think she was a great candidate. It's the electorate that failed. ificandream Nov 2024 #92
Stuck? Seriously?? After he CHOSE her as his running mate and presidential partner as the "last in the room"? ancianita Nov 2024 #168
Yes, that's exactly how I felt. We had no choice but to run Harris. tritsofme Nov 2024 #218
Incredibly disappointing! Mme. Defarge Nov 2024 #17
The MSM was relentless. luvallpeeps Nov 2024 #89
I was disappointed when his own people called for him to step down. Yes, the debate was painful to watch but that akbacchus_BC Nov 2024 #249
She pushed him out. Is this the onion. Emile Nov 2024 #19
Yes, she pushed him out, and now tries to avoid responsibility for the outcome. LisaL Nov 2024 #58
Not Only Was She One of the Orchestrators Of Biden Stepping Aside hotellanai1986 Nov 2024 #198
Pelosi should retire. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Nov 2024 #21
That is CLEARLY what she was saying, WTF krawhitham Nov 2024 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Nov 2024 #38
RIGHT krawhitham Nov 2024 #40
Fair enough. I stand corrected. iemanja Nov 2024 #47
Joe endorsed Harris seconds after he withdrew, forcing everyone else to follow suit krawhitham Nov 2024 #45
Why would he not endorse his own VP? LisaL Nov 2024 #50
To allow the Party as a whole to chose a candidate Zeitghost Nov 2024 #106
There was no time for a party as a whole to chose a candidate. LisaL Nov 2024 #108
I think he may have been quick to endorse her early because Obama did NOT do the same with his VP... thesquanderer Nov 2024 #196
Despicable displacedvermoter Nov 2024 #22
She doesn't want to accept her own responsibility for LisaL Nov 2024 #23
Democrats forced Biden to drop out. hadEnuf Nov 2024 #103
Lawrence O'Donnell said that repeatedly PatSeg Nov 2024 #181
With all due respect to everyone, I'm sick of the Biden Bashing. Really sick of it. Joinfortmill Nov 2024 #24
So am I MustLoveBeagles Nov 2024 #27
So am I. Joe did an amazing job pulling this country out of the toilet trump left us in. The only thing that should LoisB Nov 2024 #33
Maybe President Newsom COL Mustard Nov 2024 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #224
If you ask me, Nancy Pelosi should have pressured Joe Biden not to run for re-election in the first place In It to Win It Nov 2024 #25
Pelosi and Schumer agreed that Biden was our nominee 12/22 Arazi Nov 2024 #84
That's because she was the one behind forcing Joe out, and now does not what the backlash, so she blaming others krawhitham Nov 2024 #26
She put the final knife to Joes back, and is scrambling to escape now that everyone is reaching for a fork. Lancero Nov 2024 #36
I strongly agree that President Biden should not have run for a second term. tman Nov 2024 #28
Hindsight is always 20-20. LisaL Nov 2024 #237
Even if there was substance to what she says Dave says Nov 2024 #29
Unfortunately she is saying what everyone is thinking. It's bad timing, but not wrong. Pisces Nov 2024 #34
Not everyone n/t Lulu KC Nov 2024 #140
Pelosi should retire standingtall Nov 2024 #30
She did more to protect us from Trump last time. How about she not retire LizBeth Nov 2024 #43
Pelosi is 84 years old standingtall Nov 2024 #49
Not president and doing fine and the one in there not a younger gen LizBeth Nov 2024 #119
My feelings exactly. LisaL Nov 2024 #44
WTF? She's blaming both Biden and Harris for the loss. StarryNite Nov 2024 #31
It's the truth Zeitghost Nov 2024 #54
If Harris had been passed over as replacement, we would not have marybourg Nov 2024 #68
Sure we would Zeitghost Nov 2024 #97
Solid vetting process? LisaL Nov 2024 #99
At the convention Zeitghost Nov 2024 #102
Convention was scheduled after a deadline to get on the ballot in OH. LisaL Nov 2024 #104
You are seriously underinformed Zeitghost Nov 2024 #121
This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Nov 2024 #126
What you said Zeitghost Nov 2024 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Nov 2024 #130
OH deadline was extended, but the law wouldn't have taken an effect in 2024, because extension was LisaL Nov 2024 #135
Dream on. Bypassing Harris would've splintered the party and lost the Black vote. brush Nov 2024 #178
Biden rebuffed all attempts to convince him early Zeitghost Nov 2024 #182
Listen up. I said a whole party primary in '22 where Harris would've sunk or swam like other candidates. brush Nov 2024 #187
This black woman would no longer identify as a democrat. And I know plenty of other black women that feel that way tulipsandroses Nov 2024 #207
I'm sure that will work out well Zeitghost Nov 2024 #209
Seems like you are making all kinds of assumptions there. If you want to know my other intentions. Ask. Don't assume. tulipsandroses Nov 2024 #214
The VP was the normal, logical and highly qualified candidate to replace a departing Pres. marybourg Nov 2024 #105
A primary is not passing someone over. white_wolf Nov 2024 #191
There was no time for a primary, when Biden was forced to drop out. LisaL Nov 2024 #193
Strongly disagree. To not choose the sitting marybourg Nov 2024 #197
This isn't about DEI scores Zeitghost Nov 2024 #211
I don't think it would be called "passed over" Polybius Nov 2024 #309
This isn't "advice" Lulu KC Nov 2024 #85
It's the Nancy I know and love Zeitghost Nov 2024 #93
I am not challenging her comments Lulu KC Nov 2024 #114
The time for the truth Zeitghost Nov 2024 #124
Good night Lulu KC Nov 2024 #138
Who would you have picked as our candidate? StarryNite Nov 2024 #117
Ideally Zeitghost Nov 2024 #122
If the candidate was selected at the convention by whatever process, LisaL Nov 2024 #132
The deadline was moved Zeitghost Nov 2024 #134
It was not moved quickly enough. The old date would have been still in place in 2024. LisaL Nov 2024 #139
Yes it was, it's been covered over and over Zeitghost Nov 2024 #145
Maybe Pelosi should blame herself for forcing him out when it was too late to do so. LisaL Nov 2024 #149
Internal polls had Biden losing bad Zeitghost Nov 2024 #162
We don't have access to internal polling, unless you are a party insider. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #312
I respectfully disagree. StarryNite Nov 2024 #113
My thoughts, as well soandso Nov 2024 #137
Biden was certainly NOT mentally declining Deminpenn Nov 2024 #227
While I agree with you re his mental moonscape Nov 2024 #291
Unfortunately, we were put in a position where she was the most convenient option In It to Win It Nov 2024 #176
People will be feasting on COL Mustard Nov 2024 #35
I think she is probably correct and I loved Harris and she ran an excellent LizBeth Nov 2024 #39
I guess she hasn't done enough. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #41
oh man....thank you stillcool Nov 2024 #57
IIt is also raw story. niyad Nov 2024 #42
From the NYT soandso Nov 2024 #100
I wll wait for the actual piece. niyad Nov 2024 #109
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/us/politics/pelosi-harris-biden-open-primary.html soandso Nov 2024 #116
I can't believe how many are trashing Nancy Pelosi. This is upside Pisces Nov 2024 #46
The truth is, she played a big role in what happened. LisaL Nov 2024 #48
People here Zeitghost Nov 2024 #59
Neither Biden nor Harris deserve this in the least. yorkster Nov 2024 #72
Just like it wasn't helpful for her to force Biden out LisaL Nov 2024 #76
I hated the way it happened, but don't know yorkster Nov 2024 #136
This is beyond unhelpful. The Unmitigated Gall Nov 2024 #51
It was calculated. She knew exactly who to run to in order to yet again bash Joe. bovine6 Nov 2024 #161
Well, of course she knew. LisaL Nov 2024 #170
Yet everyone says how the Dems can't get their messaging out. They have the media on speed dial Skya Rhen Nov 2024 #301
Dems... Ollie Garkie Nov 2024 #53
No, Rs do not march in lockstep soandso Nov 2024 #144
Yes, they do. Karasu Nov 2024 #173
I disagree soandso Nov 2024 #177
You forget the details of how and why that happened. Karasu Nov 2024 #184
Done? They very well may have the trifecta. I wish we were that "done". jimfields33 Nov 2024 #252
Look like they were speaking about moderate Rs being done within their party. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #314
Seems those moderates vote for the reicht. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #257
I actually agree with her. Xolodno Nov 2024 #55
Trump doesn't care he is term limited. LisaL Nov 2024 #63
Hence why Biden should have stated right after he took office that he was a one termer. Xolodno Nov 2024 #78
Well, clearly in retrospect, we would have been better off if we had a competitive primary. LisaL Nov 2024 #112
I think it was, in terms of football, a Hail Mary. Xolodno Nov 2024 #142
In 2022, she and Schumer agreed that Biden should run for re-election. LisaL Nov 2024 #156
Going to need a link for that. Xolodno Nov 2024 #164
Well, then the proper time to act on those worries would have been in 2022. LisaL Nov 2024 #167
Pelosi and Schumer both said Biden's the nominee 12/22 Arazi Nov 2024 #255
I love your patience and tenacity for stating the facts. Well done. NT akbacchus_BC Nov 2024 #266
But Democrats lost the year that LBJ decided not to run again (1968) Polybius Nov 2024 #311
True. Xolodno Nov 2024 #321
The Only Way We Win Chicagogrl1 Nov 2024 #56
The repubs Will SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #73
Yep. LisaL Nov 2024 #77
60% of Republicans are MAGA cultists. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #263
Oh, Nancy..... WVGal1963 Nov 2024 #60
I really thought Harris ran a perfect campaign crushed him in the debate Tribetime Nov 2024 #61
Unfortunately, LisaL Nov 2024 #65
I wasn't thinking that was the world we were living in I was wrong Tribetime Nov 2024 #70
Well yeah, they were counting on white females not to disconnect abortion policy from the policy maker. 49-49 during ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #87
Midterms didn't have Trump in them, which apparently brings out LisaL Nov 2024 #95
Agreed. She left it all on the field. 5000% effort ecstatic Nov 2024 #305
Power corrupts AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #64
Ironic considering soandso Nov 2024 #110
Kamala represents the one cohort that didn't abandon us. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2024 #67
Very true. LisaL Nov 2024 #69
There were nobody better than Kamala. Dave Bowman Nov 2024 #71
Passing over Kamala would have Sneederbunk Nov 2024 #80
There wasnt much of a good choice anyway we went back in the summer... Mark.b2 Nov 2024 #120
WHO Nancy just WHO was going to be nominated? flamingdem Nov 2024 #81
Indeed Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2024 #86
Biden ran and won as a one term candidate to return stability to the Nation. Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #88
I agreed with what she said. oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #90
She's forgotten that she herself said Biden was the nominee Arazi Nov 2024 #91
Yep. The time for any different candidates would have been LisaL Nov 2024 #98
And an open primary might have made things worse. The MFer trump had our number this time. Silent Type Nov 2024 #111
I don't think this would have mattered DC77 Nov 2024 #115
leadership had a choice wichita Nov 2024 #123
And if he'd been reelected Lulu KC Nov 2024 #147
You nailed it. Dems eat their own, they need to stop that crap and learn from the rethug play book, rally around akbacchus_BC Nov 2024 #271
Pretty sad. Our Party isn't in a great place right now. jalan48 Nov 2024 #125
she still doesn't get: it has nothing to do with the candidate AlexSFCA Nov 2024 #128
Because the reicht is so good at that... onecaliberal Nov 2024 #260
unfortunately, we learned, none of that matters to most voters AlexSFCA Nov 2024 #287
A lot of peoples votes weren't counted. People everywhere are saying onecaliberal Nov 2024 #290
I agreed with you up until point 3 ecstatic Nov 2024 #313
Meet the New Boss... MrWowWow Nov 2024 #131
We fuckd ourselves. Biden one and done. Primary. MerryBlooms Nov 2024 #141
she just can't stop herself bigtree Nov 2024 #143
Should have been a one a done. Primary. MerryBlooms Nov 2024 #151
Take care of yourself. mahina Nov 2024 #230
Oh crap. elleng Nov 2024 #146
As usual Dems form a circular firing squad Hassler Nov 2024 #148
If Biden had dropped out a year ago we would have had primaries and had doc03 Nov 2024 #150
They shut out other candidates! Arazi Nov 2024 #261
Exactly. LisaL Nov 2024 #275
I must be blocked by most of DU Arazi Nov 2024 #282
WTF Nancy? The "other side" ran with and old, crazy, felon and rapist crimycarny Nov 2024 #152
So true. LisaL Nov 2024 #153
Maybe Nancy could have done something more substantive than a snarky clap Orrex Nov 2024 #154
What do you think she could've done? Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #246
She could have refrained from armchair quarterbacking in the immediate aftermath of the election Orrex Nov 2024 #286
Members of the Democratic party are feeding on each other, its a stage of grief yaesu Nov 2024 #155
Maybe it's time for Pelosi and Schumer to retire as well ecstatic Nov 2024 #157
Honestly RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #296
Bad take, Nan. JHB Nov 2024 #158
Will the circular firing squad never end? Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #159
That's what we are famous for, why stop now? LisaL Nov 2024 #166
The important thing is not whether she gets blamed or not. Susan Calvin Nov 2024 #169
I sense, rightly or wrongly, that this is an extremely unpopular sentiment to express at DU, however, Frank D. Lincoln Nov 2024 #160
Not unpopular with the repro rights groups I am in Arazi Nov 2024 #265
Take responsibity for your own actions forner Speaker Pelosi. CentralMass Nov 2024 #172
Talk about rubbing salt into the wound PatSeg Nov 2024 #179
What I want to know ucrdem Nov 2024 #174
Can't you keep your mouth shut Pelosi. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #180
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I dont agree with it all but you spoke some truths in thst rant. CentralMass Nov 2024 #201
A broken clock is right twice a day. rubbersole Nov 2024 #202
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #203
Biden's decision to run for another term was a terrible, and tragic, mistake. pat_k Nov 2024 #204
I disagree. I think forcing him out was the mistake. CentralMass Nov 2024 #219
The reason we lost is simple DaddyShark Nov 2024 #210
She lost bc White people are anxious about a diversifying America. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #216
White people are the only racial demographic Harris made gains in Sympthsical Nov 2024 #225
How do you know that she forced him out? mahina Nov 2024 #213
Nancy, like a lot pros in DC, is completely out of touch with modern politics Yavin4 Nov 2024 #215
It wasn't Kamala, or Joe, or Pelosi nilram Nov 2024 #220
This isn't helping Meowmee Nov 2024 #221
File under, Be Careful What You Wish For Deminpenn Nov 2024 #222
There are no other candidates that would fair better anglesphere Nov 2024 #226
and now we start eating our own young... Layzeebeaver Nov 2024 #228
She didn't have to give that interview. FloridaBlues Nov 2024 #229
Why the f*** isn't Pelosi asking where the votes went?? Why isn't she asking for recounts?? WTF???? 58Sunliner Nov 2024 #231
The votes were never there- are we not getting it yet???? AkFemDem Nov 2024 #232
Then why exactly is Pelosi blaming Biden and Harris for this? LisaL Nov 2024 #236
I think she wanted him out sooner to drive more momentum AkFemDem Nov 2024 #238
The time to replace Biden with somebody else should have been LisaL Nov 2024 #240
She shut out other candidates at the start Arazi Nov 2024 #278
That's what she is doing, trying to avoid the blame for what happened. LisaL Nov 2024 #280
That interview clip is from December 2022 Arazi Nov 2024 #283
We agree to disagree. 58Sunliner Nov 2024 #250
If Harris had won, luvallpeeps Nov 2024 #233
Love ya Nancy, but go ... Island Blue Nov 2024 #235
Times reporting? Whatever. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #239
The problem is with the electorate bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #241
Nancy should retire. She announced on Election night Dems would win the house. Mr.WeRP Nov 2024 #244
This just the Johnson/Stevenson all over again Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #247
WHAT? no_hypocrisy Nov 2024 #248
Her hindsight is off. PAMod Nov 2024 #253
Nancy Pelosi has some answering to do kansasobama Nov 2024 #256
I think it hurt and not help. LisaL Nov 2024 #270
Not exactly claudette Nov 2024 #258
When was this primary going to happen at the time Pelosi and company forced Biden out? LisaL Nov 2024 #273
I don't know claudette Nov 2024 #298
She has her own legacy to protect newdeal2 Nov 2024 #259
If they would have not given it to Harris sky_masterson Nov 2024 #262
I agree with Pelosi NickB79 Nov 2024 #264
Harris is much younger than Trump. LisaL Nov 2024 #268
My honest answer? She's a woman NickB79 Nov 2024 #279
So the top players are going to blame each other? A felon won the popular vote and our side Passages Nov 2024 #267
Damn it Nancy please stop it... Ysabel Nov 2024 #269
I'm sorry, I think Nancy was a great Speaker . . . hatrack Nov 2024 #272
I semi agree with her -misanthroptimist Nov 2024 #274
Well, if there truly was time to chose a candidate at the convention, LisaL Nov 2024 #276
It doesn't stop it, per se... -misanthroptimist Nov 2024 #295
Oh I'm sorry things didn't go as planned for you. Autumn Nov 2024 #284
Pelosi julmur Nov 2024 #285
Yeah but even with all that Turbineguy Nov 2024 #289
All Well and Good Nancy But.... the_liberal_grandpa Nov 2024 #292
Sounds like a smart gal to me Beringia Nov 2024 #293
Her timing is shameful. Boomerproud Nov 2024 #308
Looks like she threw both Biden and Harris under the bus Polybius Nov 2024 #304
Who was he supposed to endorse? alarimer Nov 2024 #306
Remember all those post about the war chest only being usable by Harris? Fish700 Nov 2024 #310
This thread sucks. I reported it for sounding like GOP but it is still here. Boo, hiss !!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #315
made me very sad Brainstormy Nov 2024 #320
Seems like the former speaker envisioned some kind of ad-hoc primary happening, Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #322
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