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D23MIURG23

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Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:56 PM Nov 10

I'm tired of hearing about what Democrats should have done to reach the electorate. The choice was clear. [View all]

Whatever the reason for the loss we just suffered it is NOT because of some failure of Team Harris or the party generally to differentiate themselves from MAGA.

The voters of our country are supposed to be ADULTS. Any reasonable adult knows what a rapist is, knows what a coup is, knows what it means when a leader threatens a country's citizens with it's military.

It's very clear that our electorate has either shitty priorities, shitty principles, or some combination thereof. I don't know how anyone could believe a guy with 'concepts of a [healthcare] plan', who proposing 10% tariffs when INFLATION is already an issue, is going to fix the economy. But the fact that people would sell their country down the river for cheaper eggs and lower gas prices is disgusting.

People fucking know who Donald Trump is.

If we still have a country in a few years people will come back, because when he's caused ruinous damage and pain, he won't be funny to them anymore. They did that after Bush 2, and after his first term.

But my understanding of who our electorate is has changed. In 2004 I could excuse Kerry's loss with 9/11, wartime patriotism, and people not being informed. In 2016, I could say it was Comey. It was Hillary Clinton's 20 year exposure to a GOP smear compaign It was Russian disinfo. The electoral college.

There is no explanation or excuse that remotely covers what just happened. People did not elect a senile rapist with a personality disorder because Kamala Harris didn't adequately explain her policy proposals, or because people thought HE was more trustworthy.

Our electorate doesn't want serious attempts to solve the nation's problems: they just elected a fucking hurricane. There is no point in trying to psychologize that.

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Well said. I couldn't agree more. Marigold Nov 10 #1
Absolutely. As I said elsewhere B.See Nov 11 #58
Whether all of that is true or not is largely irrelevant. What we did clearly didn't work. TwilightZone Nov 10 #2
That's the point - it isn't about what they did. D23MIURG23 Nov 10 #10
Gold! appalachiablue Nov 10 #23
I hear Bill Cosby is available. n/t Yavin4 Nov 11 #50
Pandemic Aepps22 Nov 10 #11
Vote gap krkaufman Nov 11 #77
The answer to this is EASY!!!!!! Trueblue Texan Nov 11 #51
I don't think it had much to do with what Dems did except that probably some people were not ready to elect a LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #62
This and a lot of people's lives suck. Fish700 Nov 11 #71
Seirously we got killed on just getting our messaging out through the media... it didn't matter what we said LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #83
The majority of American adults are intellectually and morally bankrupt. RockRaven Nov 10 #3
And purposefully ignorant! RainCaster Nov 11 #89
The OP is well said 👏 Deuxcents Nov 10 #4
All voters had the information. A majority didn't understand what they really voted for. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 10 #5
"you can fool some of the people all of the time. rampartd Nov 11 #93
Voters REJECTED Freedom, Democracy, and Going Forward. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 10 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 10 #17
Who said landlide? He will probably win by less than 3% TheKentuckian Nov 11 #56
It would be well distributed if Elon and pals stole it. Pad a little here, take away some there. travelingthrulife Nov 11 #72
It's white supremacy and patriarchy. yardwork Nov 11 #79
I heard bdamomma Nov 10 #29
And they rejected science kansasobama Nov 10 #32
Many would not be alive without it.... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 11 #70
Thank you! mcar Nov 10 #7
He has a very small one. bdamomma Nov 10 #36
I paid very little attention to what the Presidential Candidates said BOSSHOG Nov 10 #8
Correct, and he vowed even higher tariffs...20%. brush Nov 10 #9
The man has been on tv for 10years. Voters knew him for worse or Better FloridaBlues Nov 10 #12
They voted for "different." This country goes through whiplash. It always wants "different", whether it be good or bad In It to Win It Nov 10 #13
Yup Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #15
We need an effective resistance kansasobama Nov 10 #33
Yes we do! Magoo48 Nov 11 #82
I think you have average voter psychology nailed. They're trying to hit refresh until they get what they want. D23MIURG23 Nov 11 #67
Correct Cosmocat Nov 10 #14
Religion is a factor - TBF Nov 10 #21
it is definitely more than one thing Cosmocat Nov 11 #63
Uuummm... Putin? GiqueCee Nov 10 #16
And/Or they were not properly informed Jarqui Nov 10 #18
I think you are right, Demiurge. Plus the misogyny stinks to high heaven. nt Hekate Nov 10 #19
the problem is endless and pervasive disinfo form the right LymphocyteLover Nov 10 #20
well said proud patriot Nov 10 #22
You can't fix stupid and plenty of voters are idiots Tribetime Nov 10 #24
Voters were well informed and chose criminality anyway. They're accomplices. Duncan Grant Nov 10 #25
One More Thing To Consider DallasNE Nov 10 #26
And now we have a huge cohort of young adults who missed almost two years of schooling due to COVID shutdowns... Mark.b2 Nov 10 #35
Low media literacy Ndp5 Nov 10 #42
Be tired all you want. But if you want to win again, you haven't said what people also WANTED that changed their votes ancianita Nov 10 #27
Yes, the choice was clear...to us. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #40
Yep, to us. ancianita Nov 10 #41
Well said BannonsLiver Nov 10 #45
Yep, it was a mass suicide event, the electorate drank the poison kool aid with there own free will yaesu Nov 10 #28
Biden resign and save democracy. since you have immunity do something. rich7862 Nov 10 #30
That explains the people who voted for trump oldmanlynn Nov 10 #31
It's 10 mil now Terry_M Nov 10 #38
Not if you don't really pay much attention Terry_M Nov 10 #34
Well said. Good post. Thank you. ancianita Nov 11 #53
What YOU said!!!!! LilElf70 Nov 10 #37
If you don't vote demodonkey Nov 11 #49
So you're prepared to continue losing? iemanja Nov 10 #39
I can fix neither malignancy nor stupidity. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #47
So the answer is yes iemanja Nov 11 #52
Oh yeah, if winning is dependent on my fixing big bang level stupidity TheKentuckian Nov 11 #61
Obviously I can't iemanja Nov 11 #68
2008, 2012. 2020 are not material. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #73
The electorate is going to get what it voted for, and a lot of them are going to discover they don't like it. D23MIURG23 Nov 11 #64
"Reach" wasn't enough, had to convince them they wrong about better times ahead. Most were unreachable. Silent Type Nov 10 #43
You Make a Lot of Good Points, D23! The Roux Comes First Nov 10 #44
I really don't give a shit why they are Nazi scum. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #48
THIS. B.See Nov 11 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 10 #46
Like I said in my OP a couple of days ago. We are not in control. 700 billionaires are. Initech Nov 11 #54
So, you wouldn't have done ANYTHING differently? n/t hard2figure Nov 11 #55
No. What do you think we should have done differently? D23MIURG23 Nov 11 #65
Beautifully said! BluRay76 Nov 11 #59
We gotta live in the real world, not in the world we'd rather live in struggle4progress Nov 11 #60
I am tired as well. LisaL Nov 11 #66
I agree 100% DiverDave Nov 11 #69
Absolutely right. No eggs, but plenty of cigarettes and alcohol . . . hawkeye21 Nov 11 #74
You got that exactly right DemonGoddess Nov 11 #75
Democrats underestimated the moral and ethical depravity of the majority of American voters Zorro Nov 11 #76
Yup. nt LAS14 Nov 11 #78
I agree. The choice was clear. decency and democracy, or indecency and authoritarianism. Respect for the Constitution or Martin68 Nov 11 #80
Thank you, you put your finger on it. AleksS Nov 11 #81
Kamala Harris lost due due to the short sighted and poorly thought-out choices by those who "call" themselves Democrats. elocs Nov 11 #84
Our division of wealth and resources is now worse than 18th Century France IbogaProject Nov 11 #85
thanks, I needed that. Hamlette Nov 11 #86
I regret that I can only rec this once. RandomNumbers Nov 11 #87
You nailed it Progressive dog Nov 11 #88
Goddamn right. Piratedog Nov 11 #90
Disgusted Piratedog Nov 11 #91
"They just elected a fucking Hurricane"? Seems more like a big yellow garbage disposal to me. calimary Nov 11 #92
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