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NewJeffCT

(56,842 posts)
46. Part of the problem is getting the message out
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:16 PM
Nov 12

Kamala & her team ran a great campaign given the short time frame, but nobody among the Democrats right now has the ability to hold the attention of the mainstream media like Trump has done over the past nearly 10 years now. Harris had it for the 10 days to 2 weeks after Biden dropped out & endorsed Harris, but then the media swung away from Harris & Walz and went back to 24/7 Trump.

Obama in 2008 got the attention of the media because he was the first major party black candidate. He got a lot more positive attention, but far more negative attention as well, than McCain. Trump has basically dominated the mainstream media coverage since he came down that escalator in 2015 to say that Mexico was sending drugs, crime, etc to America. It allows him to drive the media narrative most days, even if it's negative much of the time. (Remember the old adage from PT Barnum - "there's no such thing as bad publicity", with the corollary from Oscar Wilde "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about&quot

Trump lost in 2020 because he was an effing disaster as president & widespread mail in voting allowed Dem turnout to surge. Obama won in 2012 because he had a good 1st term & Romney was a mediocre candidate. Bush won re-election in 2004 because of 9/11 and Kerry being a mediocre candidate.

Only Bill Clinton & Barack Obama were able to capture the attention of the mainstream media for Democrats and hold it over the past 30+ years now. Bush had it in 2000 & Trump had it in 2016/2024.

Too many Democrats see Trump's gaffes and craziness and think "don't interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake" - but, it allowed Trump to keep the attention on Trump.

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Yep. 56% of Americans read at 6th grade level. And right wing media talks and writes not only lies. Ninga Nov 11 #1
Which, sadly, allows the ol KGB method easier to export to the US, especially when sick, greedy billionaires own media Attilatheblond Nov 11 #7
Yeah, I thought allowing Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #13
True Dat. Sadly. Evolve Dammit Nov 11 #32
The decades long attack on the education system whopis01 Nov 12 #41
No BigMin28 Nov 11 #2
The burn it down, low-info, propaganda-inspired. yardwork Nov 11 #3
I wonder if stupidity actually has weight and mass? Ocelot II Nov 11 #4
Yes. And eliminating the Dept of Education will give stupidity even more weight and mass. ancianita Nov 11 #9
That's the plan. "I love the uneducated." DJT. So much more malleable. Evolve Dammit Nov 11 #33
Trump used the royal "we." dchill Nov 11 #36
Interestingly, Weight and mass... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #28
I don't think so. ShazzieB Nov 11 #38
I think you're fine, ShazzieB. littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #39
I believe the correct unit is "maga" whopis01 Nov 12 #43
Not sure about mass and weight, but it sure has a lot of inertia to it.... unblock Nov 12 #47
That's beyond sad. Solly Mack Nov 11 #5
Actually, I see this as helpful unblock Nov 11 #6
Very interesting. H2O Man Nov 11 #19
Yes... Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #23
Simple EarthAbides Nov 11 #35
Fetterman & AOC in 28 SomewhereInTheMiddle Nov 12 #42
Part of the problem is getting the message out NewJeffCT Nov 12 #46
Turn out the lights, We're F****d! surfered Nov 11 #8
We play by the rules while the Republicans shit all over us. hadEnuf Nov 11 #10
Yes, goddamit!!! LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Nov 11 #11
You notice how none of these people put any actual policy reasons. It's just emotions. In It to Win It Nov 11 #12
the closest to a policy I saw was Gaza LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #18
Agreed, that's the only thing that came close. Republicans learned a while ago that emotions win elections In It to Win It Nov 11 #25
Trump is a marketer, the only thing he was ever good at. Passages Nov 11 #14
Yes, indeed. But I listened to him all the time during the campign and still have no idea how people teased any real LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #20
I agree, to me he was the most obvious sleazebag liar. Yet, despite his horrific reputation he had a tv Passages Nov 11 #21
he was shunned by everyone who worked with him before except a few horrible people who are pscyhopaths like him! LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #24
Yes. I remember years ago Anthony Bourdain did a food spot involving NJ and he went after Passages Nov 11 #30
Yes, people believed that BS about the economy NewJeffCT Nov 12 #44
TSF is a marketer Seinan Sensei Nov 11 #29
Yes, sleaze all the way. Passages Nov 11 #31
Things have been getting worse since Nixon IbogaProject Nov 11 #15
one big question here though is--- what % of her voters split their ticket like this? LymphocyteLover Nov 11 #16
LOL. We are no longer heading towards Idiocracy, we're living in it. /nt spudspud Nov 11 #22
Stupid, ignorant SECOND grade IQ !!!! Jethro Bodine Clampett is smarter than those white trash a-holes Trueblue1968 Nov 11 #26
I've been shocked by smart people being played Easterncedar Nov 11 #27
cheers for AOC, jeers for Mystal PedroXimenez Nov 11 #34
The Ivermectin and bleach inoculated have spoken. dchill Nov 11 #37
WTH??? liberalla Nov 11 #40
So at the end of it all vercetti2021 Nov 12 #45
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