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Bluetus

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158. In that case, T&Ps are in order

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:50 PM

Dec 4

But it is too soon to talk about gun violence., of course.

We don't know the motive. It might have been everyday rage or mental illness, having little or nothing to do with his role as CEO of a company that is part of an industry that systematically vacuums up almost 20% of everything that happens in the USA. But I do feel that the Trump era, all the normalization we have seen from Republicans and the corporate media have put this country on a path where this kind of violence becomes commonplace and even morally justifiable to some. Heretofore, nearly all of this kind of (presumably) politically/socially-inspired violence has come from the far right. If this one came from the far left (and we have no evidence of that yet), I fear that opens up a whole new era.

There are many people from MAGA/Q world who would welcome widespread violence and chaos from all sides, with their attitude of "burn the mother---- down".

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Revenge? XanaDUer2 Dec 4 #1

Pre existing condition superpatriotman Dec 4 #7

That's cold as ice Prairie Gates Dec 4 #16

The whole system is! N/ t Hope22 Dec 4 #87

THIS malaise Dec 4 #175

Yes, insurance companies can be that way. Think. Again. Dec 4 #98

Yep tonkatoy8888 Dec 4 #100

Let's wait to see what the motive was. Bluetus Dec 4 #117

I doubt if it's mistaken identity. LeftInTX Dec 4 #142

You forgot Dan Dec 4 #153

In that case, T&Ps are in order Bluetus Dec 4 #158

Expand your second one and you're probably on the right track jmowreader Dec 4 #168

I watched the video footage Emrys Dec 4 #182

Also appeared to be a silenced pistol with subsonic ammo... EX500rider Dec 4 #183

Cool and calculated. Not so sure about professional. Bluetus Dec 4 #185

Making room for someone who is even worse? GoCubsGo Dec 4 #28

Just saw this. Hmmm... n/t CousinIT Dec 4 #2

Oh no how terrible Asa13 Dec 4 #3

Reserving comment. Maru Kitteh Dec 4 #4

This might be the beginning XanaDUer2 Dec 4 #8

It may be. My first thought was. "They should be afraid." I wish Maru Kitteh Dec 4 #12

Wish I could rec this more than once. MontanaMama Dec 4 #61

Waiting for the UH corporate PR machine to kick into gear, flood the media with Maru Kitteh Dec 4 #73

I believe this to be true. MontanaMama Dec 4 #91

Yessss MM DENVERPOPS Dec 4 #104

Bodyguards? More likely, private armies. N/t FSogol Dec 4 #169

Trump believes he benefits from chaos, so Bluetus Dec 4 #187

Literally what my DH just said Bettie Dec 4 #13

Even Americans must have a breaking point XanaDUer2 Dec 4 #15

That's why the dummies voted for republicans wolfie001 Dec 4 #19

I have some figures on that.... NJCher Dec 4 #66

Do those overlap on the Venn Diagram or or they cummulative? Moostache Dec 4 #89

And they pet their AR-15s more than their effing dogs wolfie001 Dec 4 #178

Amazing, though, how regular they show up to vote wolfie001 Dec 4 #177

It's not health care that's getting worse... dchill Dec 4 #119

You forgot to say DENVERPOPS Dec 4 #171

Fucking Florida Fail wolfie001 Dec 4 #179

As someone with a chronic health condition, my first thought TBF Dec 4 #59

Doubtful. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 4 #74

They dont know how to vote for policies that benefit them ColinC Dec 4 #76

as though those policies JUST HAPPEN to benefit them. Think. Again. Dec 4 #113

Yeah but i couldnt fit all that in a subject line ColinC Dec 4 #122

Right!!! Traildogbob Dec 4 #110

Or malaise Dec 4 #176

Who did he piss off? Historic NY Dec 4 #5

My guess is everyone United Healthcare screwed over. Ray Bruns Dec 4 #108

At least the perp is somewhat eco-friendly. GreenWave Dec 4 #159

A new "Law and Order" episode is probably in the works RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 4 #6

lol wolfie001 Dec 4 #22

UHC has a poor reputation as a health insurer Dennis Donovan Dec 4 #9

See my post downthread. yardwork Dec 4 #23

Could be a disgruntled employee newdeal2 Dec 4 #10

Yeah. Could be numerous things. LeftInTX Dec 4 #124

It was a stockholders meeting peregrinus Dec 4 #174

Maybe somebody's loved one died because UnitedHealthcare refused to pay dalton99a Dec 4 #11

"the masked gunman was said to have fled eastbound on 6th Avenue" Prairie Gates Dec 4 #14

Another report did say he went down an alley.. yardwork Dec 4 #20

Yeah, I know, I'm just goofing on The Independent Prairie Gates Dec 4 #30

Maybe 46th St ? IbogaProject Dec 4 #42

The Hilton is between 53rd and 54th Prairie Gates Dec 4 #50

I have stayed at that Hilton every tear since 2006. Henry203 Dec 4 #64

Well, they're Brits. What do they know about NYC? yardwork Dec 4 #43

the Independent reporter, Justin Rohrlich, is an American based out of NYC Celerity Dec 4 #96

There are no alleys in midtown . . . markpkessinger Dec 4 #163

Now that video is out, it appears that eyewitnesses were wrong about a bunch of things. yardwork Dec 4 #165

My immediate thought also...was just on that block Sunday Drum Dec 4 #29

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what they're even talking about Prairie Gates Dec 4 #32

I'm impressed by your... littlemissmartypants Dec 4 #52

6 th ave runs North/South Captain_New_York Dec 4 #65

Literally the point of the post that you're responding to Prairie Gates Dec 4 #82

Username checks out markodochartaigh Dec 4 #127

Formerly head of UHC "gov services" Medicare XanaDUer2 Dec 4 #17

That's the only reason I knew who the company was...Medicaid for the elderly FirstLight Dec 4 #81

This doesn't look like a 'personal' or business matter Joinfortmill Dec 4 #126

Maybe not a disgruntled amateur soandso Dec 4 #184

United Healthcare has been negotiating contracts this fall. yardwork Dec 4 #18

We Americans voted for this very care every time we vote republican wolfie001 Dec 4 #24

But but but Democrats kill babies don't you know? Walleye Dec 4 #26

yes, and we price eggs too high, also. Think. Again. Dec 4 #118

And babies come from eggs. Oh the plot thickens! GreenWave Dec 4 #160

Well... yardwork Dec 4 #27

We had a really good chance to pass one in 74 Jk23 Dec 4 #44

+13 k&r Emile Dec 4 #57

My wife and I got caught up in that too. iscooterliberally Dec 4 #84

Right. We have very little choice about who carries our coverage. yardwork Dec 4 #85

In Minnesota two or three systems have said they'll drop UHC dflprincess Dec 4 #130

Yep kenziemom06 Dec 4 #180

UnitedHealthcare's stock is up this morning. Yavin4 Dec 4 #21

Wall Street Wolves wolfie001 Dec 4 #25

+1 Auggie Dec 4 #75

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This is Howard Cossell reporting live. GreenWave Dec 4 #161

Satisfied customer, no doubt. Liberal In Texas Dec 4 #31

And there's reports the gunman used a silencer. Liberal In Texas Dec 4 #37

No way IbogaProject Dec 4 #46

Could be. Since so many civilians collect military and law enforcement grade weapons any more Liberal In Texas Dec 4 #55

Really well planned Henry203 Dec 4 #53

Yup, that entrance is the most direct way to escalators up, where the meeting rooms and large halls are. Drum Dec 4 #90

if you go dwon the escalators Henry203 Dec 4 #148

Yes, so you said. Drum Dec 4 #149

That's horrible. milestogo Dec 4 #33

But... but.. but... Hunter Biden LW1977 Dec 4 #34

Tots and pears. onecaliberal Dec 4 #35

My contribution to the evidence-free speculation here DBoon Dec 4 #36

I doubt it Henry203 Dec 4 #47

Pro-tip: You don't hear me say I was near Watergate, do you? GreenWave Dec 4 #162

But, Do You Really Think RobinA Dec 4 #137

Just like everyone at Trump's whitehouse DENVERPOPS Dec 4 #173

I can't say how I really feel about this crime. area51 Dec 4 #38

I may be watching too many crime shows, but... onlyadream Dec 4 #39

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The shooter was wearing a hoodie and probably masked. Liberal In Texas Dec 4 #115

I've been watching Person of Interest (all in NYC) and it totally feels like an episode. onlyadream Dec 4 #156

Usually it's the deductible that kills you Orrex Dec 4 #40

... leftstreet Dec 4 #60

Sometimes the deductible gets you...sometimes you get the deductible. CincyDem Dec 4 #105

! Kali Dec 4 #152

Guns, guns, guns - the insanity continues. walkingman Dec 4 #41

I hve been going to that Hilton every year since 2006. Henry203 Dec 4 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 4 #79

Loved one of a patient who died because of denied care? IronLionZion Dec 4 #48

Is this the new justice in the United States? Emile Dec 4 #49

Damn sight more effective than Garland. markodochartaigh Dec 4 #131

Power play at the top of UnitedHealthCare? patphil Dec 4 #51

poor guy! DemMedic Dec 4 #54

Yes - when I saw the title I assumed intentional - midtown doesn't TBF Dec 4 #56

I doubt it. Elessar Zappa Dec 4 #69

From April of this year Attilatheblond Dec 4 #58

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Suspect wore a black mask, white tennis shoes Emile Dec 4 #62

Day of the Jackal Prairie Gates Dec 4 #93

Thoughts drmeow Dec 4 #67

Instead of falling out a window? mn9driver Dec 4 #68

We likely have more guns ... Whiskeytide Dec 4 #139

Hmmm Beachnutt Dec 4 #70

Look where insurance premiums will go now! otchmoson Dec 4 #71

Surveillance photos of shooter: dalton99a Dec 4 #72

What a shame. James48 Dec 4 #77

He got paid more than his boss, the UnitedHealth Group CEO? mathematic Dec 4 #92

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Interesting height Prairie Gates Dec 4 #94

Woman? Joinfortmill Dec 4 #134

Shoulders look a little big for that Prairie Gates Dec 4 #144

Boo f-ing hoo gay texan Dec 4 #78

Someone's claim was denied and so they took the matter to the top? Omnipresent Dec 4 #83

It was an employee of United Healthcare TNNurse Dec 4 #86

"Thank you for giving me what I paid you for asshole" ZonkerHarris Dec 4 #103

Well, THAT'S RobinA Dec 4 #141

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John Q (2002) Prairie Gates Dec 4 #95

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Most of the time the public has no idea of where a CEO is going to be when unprotected. They will know LiberalArkie Dec 4 #99

Sounds like he had connections to the mob. Beck23 Dec 4 #101

What are you basing that claim on? sarisataka Dec 4 #123

I'm curious to hear the answer, too. yardwork Dec 4 #128

Wouldn't be surprised if a big pharma CEO is next. Crowman2009 Dec 4 #102

New plan. James48 Dec 4 #106

Point of order... Takket Dec 4 #109

That's sounds like a threat soandso Dec 4 #186

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War is Hell. The Grand Illuminist Dec 4 #112

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UHC coverage is absolutely horrible. Basso8vb Dec 4 #121

Apparently vigilante justice is now acceptable to many DUers. onenote Dec 4 #125

I'm glad I am not the only one sarisataka Dec 4 #129

Post removed Post removed Dec 4 #170

Welcome to DU sarisataka Dec 4 #172

A burst of class consciousness and solidarity is all it is leftstreet Dec 4 #135

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Maybe... Davon512 Dec 4 #157

Condoning murder and making threats soandso Dec 4 #188

I find it off-putting MustLoveBeagles Dec 4 #140

Many of the comments on this thread are disgusting. beaglelover Dec 4 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author John Shaft Dec 4 #146

So now adhering to progressive values is being a simp? onenote Dec 4 #150

I've been in a text group this morning made up of former UHC employees dflprincess Dec 4 #132

Well, that does it... biocube Dec 4 #133

Murder is bad, m'kay. RockRaven Dec 4 #147

More/Updated, Police via NYTimes: Drum Dec 4 #151

" the gunman quickly cleared the jam and resumed firing" Prairie Gates Dec 4 #154

I know...that sticks out, in the wording. Drum Dec 4 #155

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I haven't the slightest idea what the motive was DFW Dec 4 #166

And that's that Strelnikov_ Dec 4 #167

I think this is just the beginning of what will become lawless chaos in fascist USA, the land of the untouchables nt yaesu Dec 4 #181